Extension Categories Review

Axel Grude axel.grude at googlemail.com
Wed Nov 28 09:32:23 UTC 2012


Bump!

I was kind of busy the last weeks, but if you need me on the Tuesday call to decide on 
this I will try to attend next time.

(Provided I am not away in UK for a funeral of a very close relative of mine)

Other than that, can somebody champion this on my behalf please?

cheers
   Axel

*To: *"tb-planning"<tb-planning at mozilla.org>
*From: *"Axel"<axel.grude at googlemail.com>
*CC: *"aceman" acelists at atlas.sk
*Sent: *Monday, 19/11/2012 18:35:06 18:35 GMT ST +0000 [Week 47]
*Subject:*Re: Extension Categories Review
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> I think as long as the statistics are calculated according to user adoption */per 
> application/*, it is "kind of" fair to have them there - of course they have a much 
> bigger chance of advertisement (and so, an unfair advantage) through their already 
> existing Fx user base. However, it would be nice to have these "Browsing" related 
> Addons in Thunderbird in a separate Category. Which reminds me, what about my 
> suggestions on the new categorization for Thunderbird:
>
>
> Can we have a decision on
>
> https://etherpad.mozilla.org/tb-amo-category-improvements
>
> pretty please? And would flash be under "browsing", "reading" or "misecallaneus" ?? 
> I think I listed them in the "To Be Discussed" list.
>
> For your convenience, copy of the categories list as it was discussed on etherpad here:
>
>
>> consolidated list (includes 6 existing categories)
>>
>> *Must Haves*
>>
>> here is a revised list with less items and some example extensions
>>
>>   * Contacts {google contact, morefunction for address book, funambol}
>>
>>   * Message & News Reading {Conversations, Image Zoom, LookOut, Foxy Proxy, Compact
>>     Header, DispMUA)
>>
>>   * Folders & Filters {QuickFolders, FiltaQuilla, Quick Folder Move, Quick Filer,
>>     Folder         Flags, Copy Sent to Current, Mail Summaries}
>>
>>   * Message Composition {highlight text, signature-switch, shrunked image resizer,
>>     Stationery, smartTemplate4}
>>
>>   * Calendar & Date / Time{Lightning, ReminderFox, FoxClocks, Sun Cult, Provider
>>     for Google Calendar, ThunderBirthDay}
>>
>>   * Dictionaries & Language support{ Quick Translator, Quick Locale Switcher,
>>     Zombie Keys, Disctionary Switcher }
>>
>>   * Backup & Archiving{ ??? }
>>
>>   * Import / Export {Password Exporter, Message Filter Import/Export, accountex,
>>     ImportExportTools}
>>
>>   * Privacy & Security{Password Exporter, EnigMail, Master Password+,..}
>>
>>   * Appearance& Customization (could include addons that configure themes)
>>
>>   * Miscellaneus
>>
>>
>>
>> 11 must have items this time. The main objective should be simple browsing so that 
>> specific extensions can be found even by inexperienced mail users.
>>
>> *To be Discussed*
>>
>> I feel some of these should be there, even though they currently don't have many 
>> Addons.
>>
>>   * Tags {TaQuilla, Tag Toolbar, Tb Conversations, Tags Toolbar } [Again, there are
>>     very few extensions,so this might not be important as a category]
>>
>>   * Chat & IM {Jabberpresence, TweeQuilla, New Account Types}  [this is going to be
>>     more important in the future, even if there are not many extensions right now]
>>
>>   * I think we should go ahead and do it now, this might encourage addon developers
>>     in some form. If the category is going to be empty though, it wouldn't be nice.
>>
>>   * hmm, I simply can't find _any_ chat specific Addons, maybe I was wrong :( there
>>     are a few at https://addons.instantbird.orgbut I wouldn't bank on them being
>>     ported to TB any time soon.
>>
>>   * Signatures & Headers [although I think they are important, there are probably
>>     not enough different extensions in this field]
>>
>>   * I think this can go away. You said in tb-planning there is at least one
>>     extension that modifies the headers of existing email. I think a such extension
>>     could go for "Message Reading".
>>
>>   * Browsing [IMO this is unimportant from the mail users view?]
>>
>>   * Search Tools [there is not all that many addons dealing with this in tb]
>>
>>
>>
>> Some questions about add-ons classification:
>> What does :
>>
>>   * Mail Summaries,
>>
>>   * Deselect On Delete,
>>
>>   * Attachment options
>>
>>   * ThunderPlunger
>>
>> do in the "News Reading" category??? I haven't list them all, but I guess that 
>> *someone should take the time to be sure that the add-ons are well categorize*(ie: 
>> who is responsible for that?)... These are choosen by the authors. Maybe wrong 
>> because of lack of categories?
>>
>> As  the developer of the first three add-ons, they're listed in the news reading 
>> category because they affect news messages as well as mail  messages.
>>
>> Create examples/tutorials for using the Addon Builder and SDK 
>> (https://builder.addons.mozilla.org/) <https://builder.addons.mozilla.org/%29>for 
>> Thunderbird add-ons.
>>
>> *Popular Add-on Issues*
>>
>> We should also avoid that the most popular add-on listed on 
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/  (on the right pane) are Addblock + 
>> and Flashblock, which are useless on Thunderbird! On Feeds they could be useful 
>> (ABP works, but I can't say  if Flash works in RSS)
>>
>> The   problem is both measuring the popularity (which doesn't seem to count   Fx 
>> and Tb separately) plus the obvious much bigger exposure that   "Hybrid" Extensions 
>> get.
>>
>> This issue is covered here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556135
>>
>> It   is also no clear whether featured extensions currently "works" and  what  its 
>> exact criteria are. IMO featured extensions should change more  often and should 
>> focus on mail-centric add-ons.
>
>
>
> Axel
>
>
>
> *To: *"Vincent, tb-planning at mozilla.org"<el.cameleon.1 at gmail.com, 
> tb-planning at mozilla.org>
> *From: *"acelists"<acelists at atlas.sk>
> *Sent: *Monday, 19/11/2012 16:28:08 16:28 GMT Standard Time {GMT ST} +0000 [Week 47]
> *Subject:*Re: Extension Categories Review
>> I don't think so. TB does pick up flash plugin if it is installed system wide (even on Linux). I often have to disable it im addons manager after Flash upgrade.
>> Also, TB seems to have full browsing capability (just no address bar, but surely some extension exposes it). So blocking ads/malware is relevant to TB too, albeit it may be used by much less users.
>> Spam and remote images in messages are a completely different topic.
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> Od: "Vincent"<el.cameleon.1 at gmail.com>
>>> Komu:"tb-planning at mozilla.org"  <tb-planning at mozilla.org>
>>> Dátum: 19.11.2012 17:21
>>> Predmet: Re: Extension Categories Review
>>>
>>> Sorry, FlashGot is not relative to Flash Content (I have mingled it with
>>> FlashBlock) but it is a download manager (which is quite useless in
>>> Thunderbird too)...
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/11/19 Vincent<el.cameleon.1 at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> As Thunderbird doesn't have any flash plugin, I really doubt there is an
>>>> interested in blocking flash content.
>>>>
>>>> Spam are already filtered by the spam filter and remotes images are also
>>>> block by default, so I also don't see the interest in using AdBlock+... In
>>>> any case even if it could be useful for some privacy fanatics, we shouldn't
>>>> promote it this way, because as it is now you got the impression that it is
>>>> a must have.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2012/11/19 Tanstaafl<tanstaafl at libertytrek.org>
>>>>
>>>>> On 2012-11-19 5:54 AM, Vincent<el.cameleon.1 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another point is : What can we make in order to avoid Adblock+ and
>>>>>> FlashBlock from being in the top of our TB add-ons? Should we ask the
>>>>>> author to  remove TB compatibility?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Vincent,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm probably reading this wrong, but that seems like it will prevent
>>>>> users from making Thunderbird more secure.  Am I missing something?
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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> *Axel Grude* [T]
> Software Developer
> Thunderbird Add-ons Developer (QuickFolders, quickFilters, QuickPasswords, Zombie 
> Keys, SmartTemplate4)
> AMO Editor

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*Axel Grude*
Software Developer
Thunderbird Add-ons Developer (QuickFolders, quickFilters, QuickPasswords, Zombie 
Keys, SmartTemplate4)
AMO Editor
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