Extension Categories Review

Axel axel.grude at googlemail.com
Mon Nov 19 18:35:06 UTC 2012


I think as long as the statistics are calculated according to user adoption */per 
application/*, it is "kind of" fair to have them there - of course they have a much 
bigger chance of advertisement (and so, an unfair advantage) through their already 
existing Fx user base. However, it would be nice to have these "Browsing" related 
Addons in Thunderbird in a separate Category. Which reminds me, what about my 
suggestions on the new categorization for Thunderbird:


Can we have a decision on

https://etherpad.mozilla.org/tb-amo-category-improvements

pretty please? And would flash be under "browsing", "reading" or "misecallaneus" ?? I 
think I listed them in the "To Be Discussed" list.

For your convenience, copy of the categories list as it was discussed on etherpad here:


> consolidated list (includes 6 existing categories)
>
> *Must Haves*
>
> here is a revised list with less items and some example extensions
>
>   * Contacts {google contact, morefunction for address book, funambol}
>
>   * Message & News Reading {Conversations, Image Zoom, LookOut, Foxy Proxy, Compact
>     Header, DispMUA)
>
>   * Folders & Filters {QuickFolders, FiltaQuilla, Quick Folder Move, Quick Filer,
>     Folder         Flags, Copy Sent to Current, Mail Summaries}
>
>   * Message Composition {highlight text, signature-switch, shrunked image resizer,
>     Stationery, smartTemplate4}
>
>   * Calendar & Date / Time{Lightning, ReminderFox, FoxClocks, Sun Cult, Provider for
>     Google Calendar, ThunderBirthDay}
>
>   * Dictionaries & Language support{ Quick Translator, Quick Locale Switcher, Zombie
>     Keys, Disctionary Switcher }
>
>   * Backup & Archiving{ ??? }
>
>   * Import / Export {Password Exporter, Message Filter Import/Export, accountex,
>     ImportExportTools}
>
>   * Privacy & Security{Password Exporter, EnigMail, Master Password+,..}
>
>   * Appearance& Customization (could include addons that configure themes)
>
>   * Miscellaneus
>
>
>
> 11 must have items this time. The main objective should be simple browsing so that 
> specific extensions can be found even by inexperienced mail users.
>
> *To be Discussed*
>
> I feel some of these should be there, even though they currently don't have many Addons.
>
>   * Tags {TaQuilla, Tag Toolbar, Tb Conversations, Tags Toolbar } [Again, there are
>     very few extensions,so this might not be important as a category]
>
>   * Chat & IM {Jabberpresence, TweeQuilla, New Account Types}  [this is going to be
>     more important in the future, even if there are not many extensions right now]
>
>   * I think we should go ahead and do it now, this might encourage addon developers
>     in some form. If the category is going to be empty though, it wouldn't be nice.
>
>   * hmm, I simply can't find _any_ chat specific Addons, maybe I was wrong :( there
>     are a few at https://addons.instantbird.orgbut I wouldn't bank on them being
>     ported to TB any time soon.
>
>   * Signatures & Headers [although I think they are important, there are probably
>     not enough different extensions in this field]
>
>   * I think this can go away. You said in tb-planning there is at least one
>     extension that modifies the headers of existing email. I think a such extension
>     could go for "Message Reading".
>
>   * Browsing [IMO this is unimportant from the mail users view?]
>
>   * Search Tools [there is not all that many addons dealing with this in tb]
>
>
>
> Some questions about add-ons classification:
> What does :
>
>   * Mail Summaries,
>
>   * Deselect On Delete,
>
>   * Attachment options
>
>   * ThunderPlunger
>
> do in the "News Reading" category??? I haven't list them all, but I guess that 
> *someone should take the time to be sure that the add-ons are well categorize*(ie: 
> who is responsible for that?)... These are choosen by the authors. Maybe wrong 
> because of lack of categories?
>
> As  the developer of the first three add-ons, they're listed in the news reading 
> category because they affect news messages as well as mail  messages.
>
> Create examples/tutorials for using the Addon Builder and SDK 
> (https://builder.addons.mozilla.org/) <https://builder.addons.mozilla.org/%29>for 
> Thunderbird add-ons.
>
> *Popular Add-on Issues*
>
> We should also avoid that the most popular add-on listed on 
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/  (on the right pane) are Addblock + 
> and Flashblock, which are useless on  Thunderbird! On Feeds they could be useful 
> (ABP works, but I can't say  if Flash works in RSS)
>
> The   problem is both measuring the popularity (which doesn't seem to count   Fx and 
> Tb separately) plus the obvious much bigger exposure that "Hybrid" Extensions get.
>
> This issue is covered here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556135
>
> It   is also no clear whether featured extensions currently "works" and  what  its 
> exact criteria are. IMO featured extensions should change more  often and should 
> focus on mail-centric add-ons.



Axel



*To: *"Vincent, tb-planning at mozilla.org"<el.cameleon.1 at gmail.com, 
tb-planning at mozilla.org>
*From: *"acelists"<acelists at atlas.sk>
*Sent: *Monday, 19/11/2012 16:28:08 16:28 GMT Standard Time {GMT ST} +0000 [Week 47]
*Subject:*Re: Extension Categories Review
> I don't think so. TB does pick up flash plugin if it is installed system wide (even on Linux). I often have to disable it im addons manager after Flash upgrade.
> Also, TB seems to have full browsing capability (just no address bar, but surely some extension exposes it). So blocking ads/malware is relevant to TB too, albeit it may be used by much less users.
> Spam and remote images in messages are a completely different topic.
>
> ______________________________________________________________
>> Od: "Vincent" <el.cameleon.1 at gmail.com>
>> Komu: "tb-planning at mozilla.org" <tb-planning at mozilla.org>
>> Dátum: 19.11.2012 17:21
>> Predmet: Re: Extension Categories Review
>>
>> Sorry, FlashGot is not relative to Flash Content (I have mingled it with
>> FlashBlock) but it is a download manager (which is quite useless in
>> Thunderbird too)...
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/19 Vincent <el.cameleon.1 at gmail.com>
>>
>>> As Thunderbird doesn't have any flash plugin, I really doubt there is an
>>> interested in blocking flash content.
>>>
>>> Spam are already filtered by the spam filter and remotes images are also
>>> block by default, so I also don't see the interest in using AdBlock+... In
>>> any case even if it could be useful for some privacy fanatics, we shouldn't
>>> promote it this way, because as it is now you got the impression that it is
>>> a must have.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/11/19 Tanstaafl <tanstaafl at libertytrek.org>
>>>
>>>> On 2012-11-19 5:54 AM, Vincent <el.cameleon.1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Another point is : What can we make in order to avoid Adblock+ and
>>>>> FlashBlock from being in the top of our TB add-ons? Should we ask the
>>>>> author to  remove TB compatibility?
>>>>>
>>>> Hi Vincent,
>>>>
>>>> I'm probably reading this wrong, but that seems like it will prevent
>>>> users from making Thunderbird more secure.  Am I missing something?
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*Axel Grude* [T]
Software Developer
Thunderbird Add-ons Developer (QuickFolders, quickFilters, QuickPasswords, Zombie 
Keys, SmartTemplate4)
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