feedback /voting

Philipp Kewisch mozilla at kewis.ch
Mon Jul 23 17:57:21 UTC 2012


I disagree. There are certain addons like Testpilot I think the user should keep. Even if the user doesn't often do surveys, each and everyone is useful for the developers, which will in turn help the user. If the addon is uninstalled, the user will likely not reinstall it because there is no apparent need. Which in turn means less chance to see how thunderbird can be improved.

Philipp



On Jul 23, 2012, at 16:17, <acelists at atlas.sk> wrote:

> I do not say that addon X or addon TP is bad so it should be disabled.
> 
> I say ALL addons that the user does not use should be disabled or removed permanently and looked for periodically even if there are no visible problems. That is the general advice to Firefox/Thunderbird users to reduce their memory usage and also reduce potential for bugs/security holes if those addons become old (as the user does not case for them). I am sure this advice is provided by sources close to mozilla developers.
> 
> ______________________________________________________________
>> Od: "Wayne Mery (d531)" <vseerror at lehigh.edu>
>> Komu: <tb-planning at mozilla.org>
>> Dátum: 23.07.2012 15:49
>> Predmet: Re: feedback /voting
>> 
>> Of course, asking a user to disable an addon as a test is useful, just 
>> as suggesting safe mode as a test is useful.  We all do it.
>> 
>> But we don't tell users to continuously run safe mode, do we?  So, I 
>> wasn't suggesting disabling an addon was a bad thing. My comment was 
>> that "blanket advice" telling user to disable addon X without regard to 
>> whether it has a useful effect doesn't solve a problem. On the contrary, 
>> IMO it perpetuates a myth or rumor that X is bad, like a false cure in 
>> the medical field.  And in fact the last comment from one of the two 
>> reporters the problem is gone.
>> 
>> What would helpful, is to give effort to prove or disprove that the 
>> addon is causing a problem and permanently put the issue to rest, rather 
>> than say we can't use test pilot for surveys.  (which may or may not be 
>> a good thing, I don't know)
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/23/2012 8:44 AM, acelists at atlas.sk wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, disabling any addon that the user does not actively use can't hurt and is a general advice anywhere you look.
>>> 
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> Od: "Wayne Mery (d531)" <vseerror at lehigh.edu>
>>>> Komu: <tb-planning at mozilla.org>
>>>> Dátum: 23.07.2012 14:39
>>>> Predmet: Re: feedback /voting
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/22/2012 4:45 PM, Eric Moore wrote:
>>>>> The consensus (and normal advice) in the MozillaZine forums is to
>>>>> uninstall TestPilot because it degrades performance.
>>>> 
>>>> I have doubts that blanket advice to disable TP is helpful or valid. In
>>>> the bug report https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741601 I
>>>> count only two reporters (one each in mozillazine, getsatisfaction), and
>>>> problem is not reproduced by Gregg. Given millions of users and so few
>>>> reports I don't think we need fear that there are widespread problems
>>>> with Test Pilot.
>>>> 
>>>> But it would be good if users or people monitoring the forums update the
>>>> bug with other examples or contrary information so we get it sorted out.
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