Papercuts remixed (was Re: What's the status of papercuts?)

Wayne Mery vseerror at Lehigh.EDU
Thu Jul 12 16:23:38 UTC 2012

Quoting Tanstaafl <tanstaafl at>:

> On 2012-07-11 6:41 PM, Axel <axel.grude at> wrote:
>>> My term "vouching" was meant to represent the process of selecting
>>> which bugs you think need fixing, and adding your "voucher" to some
>>> number of those. I meant it as a plural term for the noun "vote".
>> exactly, shouldn't the bug votes somehow be accounted for when
>> prioritizing them? guess we will need some sort of committee to decide
>> which bugs are really important.
> If Thunderbird is going to become more community driven/oriented,  
> then indeed votes should count more... they shouldn't be the only  
> factor, but they should definitely matter. The problem is the flip  
> side - since the development is community driven/volunteer, there is  
> no way (nor should there be) to force any developer to work on any  
> given bug...
> This is another reason why I am in favor of some kind of bounty  
> system. It is a way for 'voters' to put their money where their  
> mouth is - and, it is a simple and meaningful way for the  
> devs/maintainers to deflect criticism of bugs not getting fixed -  
> ie, "you want it fixed? put up or shut up! <link to bounty system>".  
> Also, if such a system is put in place, there needs to be a way to  
> identify pledgers, so if they don't follow through on their pledges,  
> this fact should be publicized prominently (to hopefully shame them  
> into making good on it), as well as to be able to show public  
> appreciation once they do.

The history of bounties is spotty at best [1].  Bounties tend to be  
offered either in the heat of the moment or as a tentative offer.  And  
integrating bounties into some rating methodology would I think make  
things just more complex. OTOH, I wouldn't discourage someome from  
offering or making a bounty system more visible.  Put [bounty] in  
whiteboard after you register your bounty somewhere.

FWIW, as best I can find the official mozilla position is stated in

[1] Thunderbird bounty history of past 5 years:

* open bugs
** two very old bounties, probably expired:
** one current bug at roughly $350:, see
* fixed bugs - no bounties found

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