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Mon Jul 9 10:09:51 UTC 2012

On 2012-07-08 6:48 PM, Blake Winton <bwinton at> wrote:
> On 08-07-12 16:22 , Ben Bucksch wrote:
>> 2. Email is the most important internet usage and protocol, after the
>> web. More importantly, Email is a standard while Facebook and G+ are a
>> proprietary silos.
>> 3. A desktop email client is completely fitting the Mozilla manifesto.

> Possibly, but it's not a good fit for the mission
> <>. (" … to promote openness,
> innovation and opportunity on the web.")

I disagree, I see it as a perfect fit. Email (especially IMAP) is 'on 
the web', and Thunderbird is the best damned (desktop) email (especially 
IMAP) client around, bar none, for many reasons...

>> We *need* a competitive desktop email client.

> I agree, but I don't think that means that Mozilla needs to be the one
> who provides it.

If this was simply a discussion of whether or not to *start producing* 
an email client from scratch, your point would more substance. The fact 
is, Thunderbird already exists as a (relatively) stable and mature Email 
Client, which makes your comment pretty much without (substance).

> (Also, Mozilla isn't axing it, they're not just pushing innovations down
> the community's throat. If people want to innovate, I'll be more than
> happy to help them get their ideas in, as will the rest of the
> Thunderbird team!)

As I said in my last email, if this means that the core devs will simply 
be refocused on *stability* (I'm taking the announcement on its face), 
this could be a very good thing for Thunderbird. I'm hopeful, but I'm 
also very freaked - because if I'm wrong, then this probably is the end 
of Thunderbird, unless some other large Corporate benefactor comes along 
and forks it.

Makes me really wish I was independently wealthy, because that is 
exactly what I would do.

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