[rust-dev] Appeal for CORRECT, capable, future-proof math, pre-1.0

Robert O'Callahan robert at ocallahan.org
Sun Jan 12 17:53:41 PST 2014

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Daniel Micay <danielmicay at gmail.com> wrote:

> -fsanitize=signed-integer-overflow: Signed integer overflow, including
> all the checks added by -ftrapv, and checking for overflow in signed
> division (INT_MIN / -1).
> Why not measure the impact of this on Firefox performance? We'll have
> a concrete answer about half of the picture (but not about the cost
> for unsigned or checks on overlong shifts and for division by zero).

That would give us neither an upper bound on overhead (due to excluding
unsigned), nor a lower bound (due to no range analysis or LLVM changes).
But it might be interesting...

Inter-procedural optimization in LLVM can only eliminate dead code,
> propagate constants, inline/merge functions and bubble up effects.
> As far as I know, doing more takes way too long. Eliminating array
> bounds checks and reasoning about arithmetic just doesn't really
> happen.

So not even as good as Java and JS JITs? Sad.

> The best hope for an inner loop is for loop-vectorize/slp-vectorize to
> do their work, and they won't if there are overflow/carry checks.
> LLVM is designed to optimize C code, and deviating from that kind of
> code generation without losing a lot of performance means doing your
> own optimizations on your own intermediate format like Haskell.

I would rather not treat LLVM as immutable.

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