<div><br></div><div>It's long but there are some interesting usability suggestions around bookmarks in there. I don't actually think this is from the Oscar-winning actress herself, sadly.</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: Marissa Tomei <<a href="mailto:maxxdroidusa@gmail.com">maxxdroidusa@gmail.com</a>><br>Date: Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 12:49<br>Subject: Changes to PHOTON UI ,menus and Bookmarks.<br>To: <<a href="mailto:jgriffiths@mozilla.com">jgriffiths@mozilla.com</a>><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">Hi there!</div><div class="gmail_msg">The mockups look really great and looking forward to try them[maybe a beta with new ui to test before it is landed in nightly?]</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Although all the mockup have me hyped for the build there are a few things wich are not clear from a productiviy and mouse ui point of view so ma be you guys can clear it up or fix it?</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><span class="m_-8775615925927450647gmail-Apple-tab-span gmail_msg" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span> </div><div class="gmail_msg">1- will the bookmarks be inline? like currently the history menu in hamburger menu?</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">No pop out like now? on hovering on bookmark folder and quickly switching between them?</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Heavy bookmark users will have a very hard time as this is basically 3 steps back.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">First it requires 3 clicks to reach bookmarks, currently one.</div><div class="gmail_msg">That's a really annoying increase for a feature that's likely used very often. I didn't see a bookmarks button in Customize either.</div><div class="gmail_msg">Secondly Folders with sub folders will open inline which </div><div class="gmail_msg">will require more click and no way of opening multiple folders quickly. This is very anti productive as it slows down them process plus it makes you foucus on UI more than what you wnt to do. Plus inline have to click to enter or go-back then enter another </div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">This is current<span class="m_-8775615925927450647gmail-Apple-tab-span gmail_msg" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></div><div class="gmail_msg"><a href="https://i.imgur.com/FortKdX.png" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/FortKdX.png</a></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Mockup(Few-steps back from productivity standpoint)</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><a href="http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/photon-firefox-57-3-7.png" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/photon-firefox-57-3-7.png</a></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><a href="http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/photon-firefox-57-3-7.png" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/photon-firefox-57-3-7.png</a></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">It is currently two clicks to use a bookmark -- Toolbar button > choose bookmark</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">With the library the process is three clicks -- Toolbar button > Bookmarks > choose bookmark.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">I hope for a dedicated browse bookmarks button like pre 29 and 52 , keyboard shortcuts or make the library panel remember its state - so if you last closed it at bookmarks, it opens to bookmarks the next time</div><div class="gmail_msg">though I don't think keyboard shortcuts alone would solve the efficiency loss for the majority of users. Most are still mouse-based browsers.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><span class="m_-8775615925927450647gmail-Apple-tab-span gmail_msg" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></div><div class="gmail_msg">presonally don’t like the 2 clicks to display bookmarks, downloads etc.</div><div class="gmail_msg">i think we’ll just be able to hover over them to open them,</div><div class="gmail_msg">and i hope that is the case as i don’t want to mess up my bookmark management !! it way too important to mess with,</div><div class="gmail_msg">also i like to be able to drag and drop my tabs that i want to bookmark into the folders that i want.</div><div class="gmail_msg">if i can’t do that then it a Critical loss in productivity all all users who use mouse ui.<span class="m_-8775615925927450647gmail-Apple-tab-span gmail_msg" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span> </div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">since I got stuck with a 1366@768 screen I find that I don't want to have the bookmarks toolbar visible at all times. So if it's one thing I would like Fx to copy from Chrome is the way it presents your bookmarks on newtab without keeping the toolbar visible</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">2-Why All The Capital Letters in "Search or Enter a Web Site Address"?</div><div class="gmail_msg">That "Compact mode" is like 50% higher than what I have now</div><div class="gmail_msg">Plus compact should be even more compact & dense!</div><div class="gmail_msg">What's the point of unifying the two search bars if you then merge history, bookmarks and downloads? To have MORE empty space for nothing?</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">were to reduce the vertical padding, I wouldn't be adverse to it. However, as is not every person has a super-duper high resolution screen and making it unnecessarily thick does nothing to help</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">3-I wonder how it'll look on non-Windows10 systems without the custom window controls on the top right.</div><div class="gmail_msg">I'd like them to try and spawn without window decorations at all, and draw the buttons within their window like Chrome</div><div class="gmail_msg">as long as the linux versions will get rid of that empty line on top i'll be happy. Since this is a major rewrite Firefox on linux should be exactly like windows and no unnecessary top bar or loss of conttent space or ui looking different, this is an oppurtunity to make things right!!</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">I know that i assumed all this from the mockups and might not be right but the bookmark concer alone made me write to you as it a very important part of productivity and if you guys are really planning to go like the history menu route then please don't as it is a critical drawback/hiderance, current pop out sytem is perfect and no need to mess with it.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">If you are not the right person then can you forwad it to the UX team?</div><div class="gmail_msg">Can you discuss it and let me know ??</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Lastly thank you for reading this long email and please like to say sorry if i offended you in any way but bookmark mockup got to my nerves as i use history in hamburger menu and it's a pain and waste of time and current one is the best except not closing the bookmark pop up after a click like stay-open menu does, plus linux should not be a second class citizen..</div><div class="gmail_msg">Hope you have a good day .</div></div>
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