<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">2017-03-29 14:18 GMT+02:00 Gijs Kruitbosch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gkruitbosch@mozilla.com" target="_blank">gkruitbosch@mozilla.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="gmail-m_203763490791391469moz-cite-prefix">On 29/03/2017 11:42, Dão Gottwald
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-03-28 14:22 GMT+02:00 Gijs
Kruitbosch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gkruitbosch@mozilla.com" target="_blank">gkruitbosch@mozilla.com</a>></span>:<br>
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On 28/03/2017 08:06, Chris Peterson wrote:</span><span class="gmail-m_203763490791391469gmail-"><br>
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It seems like some of the smaller visible UI changes
could probably ship in 55/56 without needing a pref.
Users probably won't notice some of the UI polish
features until everything is into place in 57.
Shipping these smaller bits in 55/56 would give us
more testing. <br>
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Can you elaborate on this? What are "small visible UI
changes" that users "won't notice"? I'm skeptical these
even exists, looking at (for instance) things like <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345989" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/s<wbr>how_bug.cgi?id=1345989</a>
. <a href="https://xkcd.com/1172/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://xkcd.com/1172/</a>
comes to mind... And yes, of course these are extreme
examples, but I'm also looking at the mockups I've seen
and thinking I don't see anything that falls in the "small
polish" category in our main theming & structural
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You're reading Chris too literally.</div>
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I fail to understand what is "literal" about my reading and how
yours is less so, and I'm disappointed that you're turning an honest
question into "you're (reading it) wrong".<br></div></blockquote><div><br><br></div><div>No need to take it personally, I was just trying to answer your question. Clearly, there is no UI change that is guaranteed to go unnoticed with every single user. Reworded as "most users won't notice", are you still skeptical that such changes exist?<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
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<div class="gmail_extra"> We're not trying to make it look like
there were no changes at all between 54, 55 and 56, but the
changes shouldn't particularly stand out and take away from
Photon.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">For the visual refresh, I'm trying to
be smart and divide the work into parts that can be tackled
early and parts that should wait. Nihanth is going to start
with integrating our new SVG toolbar button icons in bug
1347543 -- this should land when it's ready (I've checked with
shorlander, he's fine with this)</div>
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I wouldn't have thought that changing the icons over to the Photon
icon set would be something we'd do before 57, as that's pretty
noticeable.<br>
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(To be clear, I'm not arguing that we shouldn't do this stuff prior
to 57 if people are on board with it, but to me this is a surprising
example of "small changes".)<span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div></blockquote><div><br> </div></div>From what I've seen the icons are a bit sharper and thinner, but in the grand scheme of things it's a rather subtle and incremental change.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">dao<br></div></div>