Photon landing strategy

Jeff Griffiths jgriffiths at mozilla.com
Thu Mar 30 11:33:01 UTC 2017


Thanks for clarifying Peter - by "onboarding for 57" I think these content
and tour pieces are what I meant.

Jeff

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 07:08 Peter Dolanjski <pdolanjski at mozilla.com>
wrote:

> The good news about onboarding is that everything can land prior to 57 (if
> ready) except for some of the content which needs to be swapped out (eg.
> Explaining how to take a screenshot).  The only exception to that is giving
> a tour to upgrading users from -56->57+ (not just for new downloads where a
> profile doesn't exist).
>
> Peter
>
> On Mar 29, 2017 11:49 PM, "Jeff Griffiths" <jgriffiths at mozilla.com> wrote:
>
> Onboarding for 57 obviously needs to land only in 57. Visual Styling is in
> the same boat.
>
> I don't see a downside to making Firefox feel faster right now as long as
> it doesn't look different.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 19:24 Dave Townsend <dtownsend at mozilla.com> wrote:
>
> With a little build system shenanigans I think this could work very well
> for the visual styling aspects of photon, less so for some of the
> performance and onboarding aspects. I guess it depends how public you want
> the "photon theme" to be and whether you want to test the other work
> against both themes.
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Mike Conley <mconley at mozilla.com> wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> Not sure if my suggestion got lost in the shuffle, or if it's malodourous
> / obvious enough that it didn't prompt reply, but would landing the
> appearance changes as a new complete theme be out of the question? I know
> we're tearing out the support for that stuff, at least for third-party
> extensions, but for this kind of theme development, it seems quite well
> suited.
>
> Or am I wrong?
>
> -Mike
>
> On 29 March 2017 at 08:37, Dão Gottwald <dgottwald at mozilla.com> wrote:
>
> 2017-03-29 14:18 GMT+02:00 Gijs Kruitbosch <gkruitbosch at mozilla.com>:
>
> On 29/03/2017 11:42, Dão Gottwald wrote:
>
> 2017-03-28 14:22 GMT+02:00 Gijs Kruitbosch <gkruitbosch at mozilla.com>:
>
> On 28/03/2017 08:06, Chris Peterson wrote:
>
> It seems like some of the smaller visible UI changes could probably ship
> in 55/56 without needing a pref. Users probably won't notice some of the UI
> polish features until everything is into place in 57. Shipping these
> smaller bits in 55/56 would give us more testing.
>
> Can you elaborate on this? What are "small visible UI changes" that users
> "won't notice"? I'm skeptical these even exists, looking at (for instance)
> things like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345989 .
> https://xkcd.com/1172/ comes to mind... And yes, of course these are
> extreme examples, but I'm also looking at the mockups I've seen and
> thinking I don't see anything that falls in the "small polish" category in
> our main theming & structural changes.
>
>
>
> You're reading Chris too literally.
>
> I fail to understand what is "literal" about my reading and how yours is
> less so, and I'm disappointed that you're turning an honest question into
> "you're (reading it) wrong".
>
>
>
> No need to take it personally, I was just trying to answer your question.
> Clearly, there is no UI change that is guaranteed to go unnoticed with
> every single user. Reworded as "most users won't notice", are you still
> skeptical that such changes exist?
>
>
> We're not trying to make it look like there were no changes at all between
> 54, 55 and 56, but the changes shouldn't particularly stand out and take
> away from Photon.
>
> <snip>
> For the visual refresh, I'm trying to be smart and divide the work into
> parts that can be tackled early and parts that should wait. Nihanth is
> going to start with integrating our new SVG toolbar button icons in bug
> 1347543 -- this should land when it's ready (I've checked with shorlander,
> he's fine with this)
>
>
> I wouldn't have thought that changing the icons over to the Photon icon
> set would be something we'd do before 57, as that's pretty noticeable.
>
> (To be clear, I'm not arguing that we shouldn't do this stuff prior to 57
> if people are on board with it, but to me this is a surprising example of
> "small changes".)
>
>
>
> From what I've seen the icons are a bit sharper and thinner, but in the
> grand scheme of things it's a rather subtle and incremental change.
>
> dao
>
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