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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">This should be a fairly easy task to validate with some simple user testing? We had Gemma run a similar test with the term ‘mirror’. I would also suggest to ensure we check in with the l10n teams.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I really am no sure it would reduce any anxiety, since the source of anxiety seems to be the fact that ‘something / someone else’ is holding on to your super personal information (login information). I would like to see if it’s simply a matter of putting lipstick on a pig, or whether it actually does reduce anxiety or not (and whether the message is still clear to the user on the action that is being undertaken).</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Could a simple test be run first across key regions of the US as a starter?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Karen</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></a></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Passwords-dev [mailto:<a href="mailto:passwords-dev-bounces@mozilla.org">passwords-dev-bounces@mozilla.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Madhava Enros<br><b>Sent:</b> 30 January 2015 18:08<br><b>To:</b> Christopher Karlof<br><b>Cc:</b> Gavin Sharp; Ryan Feeley; Philipp Sackl; Enros, Madhava; Stephen Horlander; passwords-dev-owner passwords-dev-owner<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: “Saved Passwords” → “Saved Logins” ?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">We'll need to double-check on the outside-our-bubble understandability of the language, but I do like the shift from passwords to logins (or equivalent term). It give a larger problem to solve and seems to connect more with the actual user task.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal">For comedy value, care of Sean Martell: <a href="http://cl.ly/image/36382m0v0446" target="_blank">http://cl.ly/image/36382m0v0446</a></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Christopher Karlof <<a href="mailto:ckarlof@mozilla.com" target="_blank">ckarlof@mozilla.com</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Gavin Sharp <<a href="mailto:gavin@gavinsharp.com" target="_blank">gavin@gavinsharp.com</a>> wrote:</p><div><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">> We assume that login is understood to include both a username and password<br><br>In general I think "login" is a less used/understood term than<br>"password", and I don't think "but what about my username?" is a<br>question that puzzles anyone in practice.</p></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Did you ever log in to the Trion FSA benefits site from last year? If you did, do you remember your username?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The long tail of the internet often forces usernames on people that they have no control over. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">-chris</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">(Spoiler: it was your Mozilla employee id and you had to enter it into a password field, i.e., what you typed was hidden.)</p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">Gavin</span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Ryan Feeley <<a href="mailto:rfeeley@mozilla.com" target="_blank">rfeeley@mozilla.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Hi all,<br>><br>> You may have noticed that we have transitioned from labelling Saved<br>> Passwords to Saved Logins (or Logins in limited space).<br>><br>> We did this for four reasons:<br>><br>> We assume that the word “password” induces varying levels of anxiety for<br>> users<br>> We assume that login is understood to include both a username and password<br>> We assume that the impact will be small to SUMO and legacy artifacts<br>><br>> Safe assumptions?<br>><br>> Ryan Feeley<br>> UX, Cloud Services<br>> Mozilla UX<br>> IRC: rfeeley<br>><br>> P.S. Last assumption: I assume that at least one person on this list has the<br>> authority to green light this change.<br>></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">> _______________________________________________<br>> Passwords-dev mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Passwords-dev@mozilla.org" target="_blank">Passwords-dev@mozilla.org</a><br>> <a href="https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/passwords-dev" target="_blank">https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/passwords-dev</a><br>><br>_______________________________________________<br>Passwords-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Passwords-dev@mozilla.org" target="_blank">Passwords-dev@mozilla.org</a><br><a href="https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/passwords-dev" target="_blank">https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/passwords-dev</a></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></body></html>