<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Thanks Margaret! I met with Chris yesterday to follow through on some of the basic principles for the desktop password manager we discussed in Portland. Original deck: <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/1jsxbz9mdr98yql/password-manager.pdf?dl=0" class="">https://www.dropbox.com/s/1jsxbz9mdr98yql/password-manager.pdf?dl=0</a><br class=""><br class="">Currently I am focussed on the #4 “Be foxy” (Have helpful UI at the ready when password detection goes awry). I met with Stephen Horlander and am following his proposal to improve the doorhangers (aka prompts/notifications) <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Stephen’s deck on Deconstrucing Panels.</div><div class="">https://bug1064257.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8504734</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’ve attached a screenshot of one of the most important proposed changes (capture and confirm), but am hoping to circulate the entire deck before the break.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Next I’ll be working on fill and the edit view.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">WRT to the survey, Cheng Wang provided feedback he felt confident represented users views. I would still like to do a survey or at least some research at least around password generation (which is a major step in trusting a password manager).<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="720330D0-9380-475C-AF62-DA61A34C711C" height="430" width="575" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:0B627C8E-F911-4837-A353-D34C7838BDE7@corp.tor1.mozilla.com" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ryan Feeley<br class="">UX, Cloud Services<br class="">Mozilla UX<br class="">IRC: rfeeley<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Margaret Leibovic <margaret.leibovic@gmail.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Brief update on the mobile front: we landed a very basic passwords management UI on Nightly [1], and we have follow-up bugs on file to add more features (e.g. filtering) and refine the UX. Anthony and Chenxia met earlier this week to come up with a UX strategy for those bugs, so we'll hopefully be making more progress there soon.<br class=""><br class="">Right now we're just trying to catch up with desktop functionality, but I think we should make sure we have product/UX coordination in case there are changes that we'll want to make to the desktop passwords management UI (e.g. editing existing entries).<br class=""><br class="">Margaret<br class=""><br class="">[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1093201<br class=""><br class="">On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Bryan Clark <bclark@mozilla.com> wrote:<br class="">Hey -<br class=""><br class="">A large group of us met on Monday way back before Portland to talk about Password Management. <br class=""><br class="">There are notes at the end of the etherpad: https://mobile.etherpad.mozilla.org/password-planning<br class=""><br class="">We also created a number of action items, many of which have already been tackled.<br class=""><br class="">Action Items:<br class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Find the results of Password Manager Survey (rfeeley?)<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• https://id.etherpad.mozilla.org/password-manager-survey<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• UR<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Is there a research plan for passwords / accounts?<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Review existing research in this area<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Metrics<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Gather any data/telemetry we already have and put it in a report or something<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• New Telemetry - frontend and toolkit (bug 672979)<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Need to clean up and separate out the bug request<br class=""></div><br class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Competitive Analysis<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• UX investigation other Browser Password Management UIs<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• (desktop and mobile) -> darrin, antlam and robin (and Gemma for UR)<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Talk with people who use various password services<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• LastPass, Dashlane, 1Password<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• https://docs.google.com/a/mozilla.com/spreadsheets/d/1JPHgC4CXCylnv-5ygrbsihbICIaYjd-suB56ibtG5Js/edit#gid=0<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Product<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• What are the sub-initiatives?<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• How do we break up the work?<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• What is our baseline across mobile, desktop, and cloud?<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Biz Dev<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Connect with BizDev about connecting with existing password managers<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• LastPass - have contact<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• 1Password - getting connected<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Dashlane - have contact<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Roboform<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Technical Investigation<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Need to investigate using OS storage mechanisms<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• iCloud KeyChain<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Windows Data Protection API<br class=""></div><br class="">Anything I missed?<br class=""><br class="">Cheers,<br class="">~ Bryan<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Passwords-dev mailing list<br class="">Passwords-dev@mozilla.org<br class="">https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/passwords-dev<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Passwords-dev mailing list<br class="">Passwords-dev@mozilla.org<br class="">https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/passwords-dev<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""></div></div></div></body></html>