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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Or Brian Smith just beat me to it.<br>
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Jason Smith

Desktop QA Engineer
Mozilla Corporation
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      On 2/13/2013 12:57 PM, Jason Smith wrote:<br>
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Jason Smith

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Mozilla Corporation
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        On 2/13/2013 12:17 PM, Alex Keybl wrote:<br>
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        <div>So we need a tef+ bug (this impacts v1.0.0 as well) on file
          for having 2 certs active at once, and a tef+ bug on file to
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            <div>On Feb 13, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Ryan Tilder <<a
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Does the build due for
                  Friday have requirements that it be a general
                  availability/gold release for use by every day
                  consumers?  If so, having the test certificate
                  installed on the device is a possible attack vector
                  and hence subwonderful.  If that is not a requirement
                  then I see no problem with multiple certs.  I was
                  under the impression that the Shira build for the 15th
                  did have such a requirement.<br>
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                  On 2/13/13 11:54 AM, Jason Smith wrote:<br>
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Jason Smith

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Mozilla Corporation
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                    On 2/13/2013 10:47 AM, Caitlin Galimidi wrote:<br>
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                      sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; ">Bsmith - like your
                      approach here. I want to make sure we're clear for
                      both builds: Shira Feb 15th and MWC.<br>
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                      Here is my understanding. <br>
                      jsmith, bsmith, rtilder, robhudson: please blast
                      me where I'm wrong.<br>
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                      <u><b>Apps on Current Builds: <br>
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                      (Shira - Feb 15)<br>
                      - Nokia Maps needs production cert<br>
                      - Gaia Calculator needs production cert<br>
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                      MWC<br>
                      - Nokia Maps will be demo'd in the Nokia booth,
                      currently has test cert<br>
                      - Gaia Calculator though not for demo, should work
                      at MWC. currently has test cert<br>
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                      <u><b>Proposed Solution:</b></u><br>
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                      (Shira - Feb 15)<br>
                      - replace test cert with production cert on Nokia
                      Maps and Gaia Calculator<br>
                      - remove test cert from device<br>
                      - Marketplace ensures production certs on Nokia
                      Maps and Gaia Calculator<br>
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                      MWC:<br>
                      - add production cert to phone, Nokia Maps and
                      Gaia Calculator, do not remove test cert<br>
                      - Marketplace can complete work on packaged apps
                      without impact to apps on MWC<br>
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                  Not exactly. If marketplace moves forward and resigns
                  the apps, that opens up a new, untested path to
                  installing of signed privileged packaged apps. I'd
                  rather stray away from even doing this.<br>
                  <br>
                  I want a "low to zero risk" situation preferably that
                  does not mess around with things close to a MWC demo,
                  so that we don't get surprised in case we need to:<br>
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                    <li>Install privileged packaged apps in Barcelona</li>
                    <li>Recover from a packaged app getting into a bad
                      state - uninstall and install it again</li>
                    <li>etc of other possible worst case situations</li>
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                  <p>I'd do the following:<br>
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                    <li>Move forward with putting both certs on the
                      device (test & prod) asap<br>
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                    <li>Hold on resigning marketplace packaged apps to
                      the prod cert until after MWC<br>
                    </li>
                    <li>After MWC, resign marketplace packaged apps to
                      prod cert - get sanity testing checks by the QA
                      guys</li>
                    <li>After #3, Yank the test cert off the devices -
                      get more sanity testing checks by the QA guys</li>
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