<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4283" dir="ltr">I don't have any extensions running that I think would alter my apparent location, but I tried disabling all extensions anyway just to try it. I also tried creating a new profile without importing anything into it, and tried that, including hand-typing in the web-site (not using bookmarks). Also turned off blocking of tracking for Starbucks.com. All to no avail. I also opened the "Site Information" from the address bar icons, and modified the authority for that site to see my location. Still no luck. <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4364"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4365">If I run geolocation sites from my computer, it shows me as being in my city of residence, or in the city where my ISP has their offices, about 30 miles away. All in North Texas, nowhere near Canada. I don't know how I'd find out what Starbucks is getting for my IP address, or what a geolocation run from their servers might show (is that what you were suggesting?). I don't know if their tech support would be able to intercept my session in flight and analyze it.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4099"><span>--Steve Rovinsky</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4100"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4104" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4103"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4102"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4101"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4521" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4522" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Bryan Price <bytehead@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Stephen Rovinsky <srovo01@yahoo.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Mozilla Nightly Testers List <nightly-testers@mozilla.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 9, 2016 4:01 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: I'm not here?<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4403"><br><div id="yiv4120402782"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4406"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4405"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4404"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4447"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4520">Gmail wants to throw this into spam. I dunno why, but since I have a label assigned, I always mark my labels as "never move to spam". /shrug.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>I would see what a geolocation site shows <b>at Starbucks</b>.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://freegeoip.net/">https://freegeoip.net/</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://ip-lookup.net/">http://ip-lookup.net/</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>Those two at least show me the country I was in. Another IP lookup site shows me Philadelphia, which, yes, I'm a Comcast customer, that doesn't really show me <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4415">my</b> location in Florida. :/<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>As to the difference between release and the others, the browser sniffers may just being <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4417">too</b> picky in what they accept. If you have a user agent changer extension, I would see what happens if you change the nightlies and developer to release, and see if those don't report the actual country (if Starbucks still has it wrong, but the two sites (just what happens to be bookmarked that show location information) show the correct info.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv4120402782gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4440"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv4120402782gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4441">On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Stephen Rovinsky <span dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4504"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:srovo01@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:srovo01@yahoo.com" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4505">srovo01@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv4120402782gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4444"><div class="yiv4120402782yqt4013108888" id="yiv4120402782yqt15747"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4443"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481337312277_4442">I sent in the following message on Nov 18, 2016, but haven't seen anything about it since. The problem still occurs as stated below:<div id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696"><div id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311684896_2456"><div id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311684896_2455" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5388">________________________<br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5457">I
tried to log onto the Starbucks web-site with the current version
(2016-11-18) of Nightly. I entered my User-ID and Password and hit
Enter. Starbucks came back with a page of advertisement banners, and at
the top was a notice that they detected that I was outside the US, and
would I like to connect with the Starbucks site for that country.
Apparently, they thought I was in Canada. I was *not* signed in. I am
not using a VPN, either.<br id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5416" clear="none"></div><div id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5417"><br id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5418" clear="none"></div><div id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5419">
After several re-tries, I went to my home router's administration page,
picked up my real external IP address, and looked up its geolocation.
Several services correctly identified my ISP and their corporate
location, in my state of residence.</div><div id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5420"><br id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5421" clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5422">
I then called Starbucks, and their technical people verified that all
my information that they had on file has me as being a resident of my
state. They had no help to offer. So I suggested it might be a browser
problem, and told them I would try again.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5423"><br id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5424" clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5425">
My next step was to try with Developer Edition. This also elicited the
"out of country" message from Starbucks. So then I tried the current
Firefox release. This one worked! So my conclusion is that something's
wrong with Nightly and Developer Edition, that leads certain sites to
think we're elsewhere.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5426"><br id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5427" clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5428">Version info:</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5429">Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 32-bit</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5430">Nightly 53.0a1 (2016-11-18) (32-bit)<br id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5431" clear="none">Developer Edition 51.0a2 (2016-11-14) (32-bit)<br id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5432" clear="none">Firefox 50.0</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5433"><div id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5459">_______________________</div><div id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5489">This is still happening with:<br clear="none">Nightly 53.0a1 (2016-12-09) (32-bit) and<br clear="none">Developer Edition 51.0a2 (2016-12-09) (32-bit),</div><div id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5534">but not with</div><div id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5559">Firefox 50.0.2<span class="yiv4120402782HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="none"></font></span></div><span class="yiv4120402782HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"></font></span><div id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5490"><br id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5434" clear="none"></div></div><span class="yiv4120402782HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"></font></span><div dir="ltr" id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5435">--Stephen Rovinsky<br id="yiv4120402782m_-6910441546339975026yiv4687944696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481311183944_5436" clear="none"></div> </div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="none">______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">
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