It's time to remove plugin support from Firefox mobile

David Keeler dkeeler at mozilla.com
Fri May 10 11:50:46 PDT 2013


> We still struggle to get mobile content served to us by
> websites/servers.

Well, it's not going to happen if we don't push them.

> Our h264 decoding on Android is still a work in progress.

H264 support is not a prerequisite to removing plugin support. As
illustrated, there are other existing options for delivering the content
people want.

> Removing it before Adobe EoL Flash will result in negative reviews

According to
http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/flash-runtimes-roadmap.pdf
, "Adobe will continue to provide critical bug fixes and security
updates for existing device configurations through September 2013".
Assuming 6 weeks per release, Firefox 24 will be released mid-September,
just in time for EoL of Flash on Android. I think this is a good time to
start making plans for this.

On 05/10/13 11:33, Kevin Brosnan wrote:
> Now is not the time.
> 
> We still struggle to get mobile content served to us by websites/servers.
> 
> Our h264 decoding on Android is still a work in progress. There are
> devices that are blocked from trying h264 [1]. We (FxA QA) are in the
> process of doing a review of our playback on 70+ devices we have on
> hand. The issues we have found so far are listed on a meta bug [2].
> 
> We regularly get 5 star reviews on the Play Store because of our Flash
> support. Removing it before Adobe EoL Flash will result in negative
> reviews and some of the positive reviews to change to 1 or 2 star reviews.
> 
> Kevin Brosnan
> 
> [1]
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Blocklisting/Blocked_Graphics_Drivers#On_Android_2
> [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=867846
> 
> On 05/10/2013 10:54 AM, David Keeler wrote:
>> [bcc'd to many lists for wide visibility - discussion should probably be
>> on mobile.firefox.dev
>> (https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mobile-firefox-dev )]
>>
>> TL;DR: Now is a good time to remove plugin support from Firefox for
>> Android.
>>
>> Consider:
>> * We do not support plugins for Firefox OS and do not plan to
>> * The only plugin that most users care about is Flash. Adobe stopped
>> development for Flash on Android in November of 2011, which is a year
>> and a half ago[1].
>> * Popular sites that use plugins have native apps. This includes
>> YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, and so on. Other sites can follow suit or use
>> modern web technologies like HTML5. Addons are also an option.
>> * Plugins are a security hazard
>> * Plugins drain battery life and make Firefox seem slow
>>
>> Let's be bold, let's protect our users, and let's move the web forward.
>>
>> [1] http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html
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