Cabello, Percy Percy.Cabello at
Tue, 9 Sep 2003 12:11:28 -0400

This may be possible. Just because I can't say this is impossible.

But this would be a very strange upsell.
When a store offers you bubble gum or razors at the checkout counter, the
bubble gum or razor maker has paid to the store for letting them put their
stuff there (cooperative promotion).

In the case of a web store (Mozilla's), there's absolutely no reason for
"upselling" anything without an economic benefit. Because there's an
implicit risk in offering any kind of product and be "liable" for that
product results. Of course if the experience is good it is good for Mozilla,
but the risk is what any other maker should pay for, in the way of
partnership, splitting profits. That is normal business practice.

Links to Mozilla forums and other kind of technical info in the upsell page
or section, just doesn;t fit in my opinion. I think it would just look bad,
non professional. Whatever the process for choosing an upsell product must
be transparent for customers (and it is implied). THey should just see the
product icon, details and add button, that's it.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ralph mellor []
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:40 AM
> To: Cabello, Percy
> Cc: ''
> Subject: Re: upselling
> > We won't advocate for any product. We will upsell it. This is about
> > business, and we HAVE TO choose a business partner. If 
> partnership is
> > undertood as advocacy, then let's advocate.
> This got me thinking. The upselling isn't the concern here.
> The advocacy is. The branding impact of the upsell is itself
> impacted by the degree of advocacy that is implied in the
> upsell. We would rather not advocate. But a close partnership
> will be viewed as a form of advocacy by most people (rightly
> so imo, but that's a moot point).
> Why do we have to partner to offer an item? Couldn't we just
> offer a range of competing items as if we were (indeed because
> we are) common garden variety resellers? And only offer items
> that we /ought/ to offer, as a benefit (convenience) to customers?
> So, we get something like this:
> While we don't agree with everything Bill has to say, we think
> "<quote about ought to have anti-virus>" is right on the money
> if you're a Windows user. If so, and you don't already have good
> security software (antivirus and firewall), we strongly recommend
> you get and install antivirus and firewall software if you wish
> to remain safely connected to the Internet. For your convenience,
> the options that the mozilla user community has suggested to
> us are listed on this page. Where possible we have become
> resellers and you can buy everything you need directly from
> this page. We try hard to maintain fair pricing and all profits
> go to the Mozilla Foundation. If you're a Linux user, you don't
> need to worry about antivirus software, and you just need to
> enable the firewall that came with your system.
> We could link to pages with quotes from mozilla forums that
> discuss the various antivirus etc. packages.
> Or something like that. The point is to add convenience value
> and get some sales in return for that, but to avoid advocacy
> by MF.
> -- 
> ralph mellor