[Go Faster] Intent to unship: Firefox Hotfix

Andrew McKay amckay at mozilla.com
Fri Jan 5 22:10:30 UTC 2018


Reviving an old thread... just to let you know that we are starting to
land the patches to enable system add-ons for Android
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1380041) and remove the
hotfix in Firefox 59
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1356331).

On 24 July 2017 at 14:00, Lawrence Mandel <lmandel at mozilla.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Ritu Kothari <rkothari at mozilla.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Julien Vehent <jvehent at mozilla.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> RelMan: what is your take on this question from Andy?
>>>
>>> > How far back do release management want to be able to go in affecting
>>> > changes to Firefox?
>>
>>
>> Hi Julien, Andy, I am still trying to find out how many of our release
>> users are on <44 version. In the meantime, how do we hotfix ESR versions?
>> Does the gofaster system add-on (SAO) mechanism for flipping prefs work on
>> ESR52 as well? I should know this but my memory fails me. :)
>>
>> Are there any kinds/classes of hotfixes such as updating whitelists that
>> could only be accomplished by hotfix add-on and not by SAO? Also, I am
>> assuming there is no impact to Fennec.
>
>
> We haven't typically (maybe ever) used the hotfix mechansim for ESR as it's
> preferable to sysadmins to have a standard release that they can choose to
> deploy. For older releases, the only use that I know of is a periodic push
> to get older versions updated to newer versions. Probably best to have
> bsmedberg weigh in on whether we can accept losing that capability for
> versions <44 at this point.
>
> Lawrence
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ritu
>>>
>>>
>>> Because if we don't care about going back to Firefox < 44, then we don't
>>> need to preserve the backend infrastructure to sign hotfixes after 57,
>>> and
>>> bug 1352454 is a WONTFIX.
>>>
>>> (we will still backup the current hotfix signing keys, but accessing
>>> them will be manual, painful and slow).
>>>
>>> - Julien
>>>
>>> On Fri 31.Mar'17 at 16:58:16 -0700, Andrew McKay wrote:
>>> > I didn't hear anything against this, but I did speak to Julien about
>>> > the signing of the hotfix. That uses a server that needs to moved with
>>> > the end of life of SCL3. Currently Go Faster add-ons only go back to
>>> > Firefox 44. A recent hotfix fixed something in a version earlier than
>>> > Firefox 44.
>>> >
>>> > How far back do release management want to be able to go in affecting
>>> > changes to Firefox?
>>> >
>>> > This ability to go back to earlier releases does not affect the code
>>> > in Firefox, but will affect our ability to remove hotfix support from
>>> > an AMO and signing of the hotfix.
>>> >
>>> > On 1 March 2017 at 19:12, Felipe Gomes <fgomes at mozilla.com> wrote:
>>> > > Having been involved in shipping fixes with both of these systems, I
>>> > > can say
>>> > > that I fully support this.  From a client point of view, system
>>> > > add-ons are
>>> > > a lot better; and the release process for them has gotten easier and
>>> > > better
>>> > > than hotfixes too.
>>> > >
>>> > > I believe there are some developer ergonomics improvements that can
>>> > > be made
>>> > > to make them a bit easier to develop and test locally. I have some
>>> > > suggestions/ideas and I'll file bugs for them.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Felipe
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Andrew McKay <amckay at mozilla.com>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Now that we have system add-ons we'd like to deprecate and remove
>>> > >> the
>>> > >> Hotfix. Given the research that rhelmer recently did, we can see
>>> > >> that
>>> > >> the uptake of system add-ons is similar to the Hotfix.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I've made a proposal here:
>>> > >> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Add-ons/HotfixRemoval
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I'm specifically looking for feedback from release drivers that we
>>> > >> are
>>> > >> comfortable with system add-ons going forward.
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