[Go Faster] System add-ons and safe mode
chofmann at mozilla.com
Tue Sep 8 20:06:22 UTC 2015
I thought there was a desire or a requirement to avoid combinatorial
Sounds like we are right back there.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Mike Connor <mconnor at mozilla.com> wrote:
> My mental model here is that system add-ons are indivisible (conceptually)
> from the base app, except that we can push updates out of band from core
> release cycles. To that end, I don't think reverting to release-time
> versions makes the most sense, since updates may include
> security/crash/other critical fixes that would be chemspills in a
> monolithic model.
> I would counter-propose that "Safe Mode" should load the latest stable
> version. That could involve downloading the stable version (if there's an
> update we haven't applied), which is okay, because the goal is to get users
> to the latest known good configuration.
> On that note, I also wonder if Safe Mode should update to the latest
> version as a part of the launch process. Obviously that's scope creep, but
> in terms of "get a user to a working configuration" updating to latest
> would seem like an improvement for users. Something to think about, at
> On 8 September 2015 at 12:10, Dave Townsend <dtownsend at mozilla.com> wrote:
>> They are in the Firefox install anyway so always available to fall back
>> to in various cases.
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Laura Thomson <lthomson at mozilla.com>
>>> It makes sense to me. I'm assuming it also means keeping a copy of
>>> release-time system add-ons locally?
>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Dave Townsend <dtownsend at mozilla.com>
>>> > Currently Firefox's safe mode disabled all add-ons bringing the user
>>> back to
>>> > stock Firefox. What about system add-ons though? We've been talking
>>> > system add-ons as being required pieces of functionality that the user
>>> > see in the add-ons manager and (generally) won't be able to turn off.
>>> > Treating them as normal add-ons for safe mode purposes breaks that.
>>> > The point of safe mode is to revert the user to a working state almost
>>> > having a clean profile so I propose that in safe mode any system
>>> > that have been updated mid-cycle are ignored and instead we revert the
>>> > to the system add-ons that shipped with their current Firefox install.
>>> > Any arguments against?
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