<div dir="ltr"><div>Closing the loop on this one, all relevant stakeholders have been coordinating in the past few days and the decision we made was to let this feature move to beta in order to get more input from our user base. We decided to keep it in beta on Linux until we fix bug 1450626 or at least until user feedback suggests it is not a significant concern and the tradeoff is worthwhile. For Windows, we expect the feature to ride the trains to release, unless any new issues crop up.</div><div><br></div><div>More experimentation will be conducted from the UX and QA teams in the beta cycle, but everyone else is encouraged to file bugs if they discover anything new, or work on the Linux blocker if they can.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Panos</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 11:18 AM Erin Lancaster <<a href="mailto:elancaster@mozilla.com">elancaster@mozilla.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Greetings, <br><br></div>RelMan and Engineering Program management just went through the list of features planned for 61 and we have the following questions about this particular change: <br><br></div>1) Is there Release Criteria for this feature based upon alignment across Engineering, Product, UX (user research), and PI? Having clear criteria will help us clearly identify what success looks like when we ship along with being able to easily identify blockers along the way. <br><br></div>2) This kind of change seems like a solid candidate for A/B testing in beta. Is there a plan for this? <br><br></div>Thank you,<br></div>Erin <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 4:40 AM, Dão Gottwald <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dgottwald@mozilla.com" target="_blank">dgottwald@mozilla.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>And I just found out about <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1456270" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1456270</a> -- this seems pretty serious and I'd consider it a blocker for even keeping this enabled in Nightly, since that's where we typically want to catch talos regressions...</div><br></div><div class="m_4389660105244322795HOEnZb"><div class="m_4389660105244322795h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-04-24 18:57 GMT+02:00 Florian Quèze <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:florian@queze.net" target="_blank">florian@queze.net</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Showing a blank window as early as possible during startup and then<br>
filling it when the browser UI is ready improves perception of startup<br>
performance. I implemented code to do this in bug 1336227. It's<br>
controlled by the browser.startup.blankWindow preference, which I set<br>
to true for Windows and Linux in bug 1447719 a month ago.<br>
The regressions that have been filed since that are now fixed, and I<br>
intend to let this ride the trains and ship it with 61.<br>
<br>
If you've seen issues with this feature and haven't reported them yet,<br>
please file a bug as soon as possible and make it block bug 1447719,<br>
thanks!<br>
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-- <br>
Florian Quèze<br>
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