<div dir="auto">The Seif protocol is only one part of the Seif project's five parts:<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">1. Seifnode, a node.js implementation of the necessary cryptographic services.</div><div dir="auto">2. The Seif protocol, version 0, published April 11, 2017, "Secure JSON over TCP"</div><div dir="auto">3. Seif Resource Management, currently under development</div><div dir="auto">4. Seif Apps, based on a minimal QT and a stripped down version of node.js</div><div dir="auto">5. Seif Helper Apps in a browser</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Trust management falls under part 3, I believe, so it's not done yet.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The Seif Helper App is what Douglas wants embedded in a major browser:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">"All we need is a rectangle, web events, and a JSON shell where we can talk to the browser. We do everything else."</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Douglas' presentation at Poly Conf explained it well:<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://youtu.be/O9AwYiwIvXE">https://youtu.be/O9AwYiwIvXE</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">He speaks to Firefox directly, saying Seif is a great way to increase market share.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ben</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 25, 2017 5:14 AM, "Gervase Markham" <<a href="mailto:gerv@mozilla.org" target="_blank">gerv@mozilla.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 21/04/17 16:37, Ben Francis wrote:<br>
> The Seif Project is now a year old. Is Firefox going to support it?<br>
<br>
"In the case where Alice is trying to connect to Bob, prior to<br>
initiating the connection, the protocol assumes Alice has access to<br>
Bob's public key. The trust management system which helps accomplish<br>
this will not be described and is out of the scope of this document."[0]<br>
<br>
I would suggest the Seif protocol is not yet implementable, as the<br>
hardest problem has been declared out of scope.<br>
<br>
Gerv<br>
<br>
[0]<br>
<a href="https://github.com/paypal/seif-protocol/blob/master/seif-protocol-specification.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/paypal/<wbr>seif-protocol/blob/master/<wbr>seif-protocol-specification.<wbr>pdf</a><br>
, page 2.<br>
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