<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Thanks for this information, Valdis.<br><br></div>Do you know if there is any way to distinguish these versions from regular XP versions that would show up in analytics/usage data?<br></div>It is really hard for us to consider such a segment without being able to quantify it.<br><br></div>Peter<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Valdis Lapins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vallap@inbox.lv" target="_blank">vallap@inbox.lv</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 11:41:29AM -0400, Peter<br>
Dolanjski wrote:<br>
><br>
> Based on an upper and lower bound projection,<br>
the end of ESR52 (likely<br>
> April-ish 2018) shows that WinXP should be<br>
between 2.5-4.2% our Firefox<br>
> Average Monthly ADIs. By January 1st, 2019, the<br>
range is 0.8-2.6% of<br>
> monthly ADIs (though that's trending pretty far<br>
out).<br>
> I think we can say with some certainty that the<br>
worst case scenario (in<br>
> terms of length of support) is the end of 2018.<br>
<br>
If I'm not too late to the party, one thing you<br>
may want to consider in your deliberations is this<br>
(from<br>
<a href="https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/gp/lifewinembed" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://support.microsoft.com/<wbr>en-us/gp/lifewinembed</a>):<br>
<br>
"Windows Embedded POSReady 2009. This product for<br>
Point of Sale devices reflects the updates<br>
available in Windows Embedded Standard 2009. It<br>
was originally released on 2009, and *extended<br>
support will end on April 9, 2019*."<br>
<br>
Obviously not all still remaining XP users are<br>
using the so-called "POSReady hack" (a simple<br>
one-time registry fix, really) to continue getting<br>
security updates on regular XP, but the numbers<br>
aren't insignificant either. My own anecdotal<br>
evidence suggests that for many people news about<br>
the availability and effortlessness of this method<br>
was *the* deciding factor in their choice to<br>
remain on XP until this support runs out.<br>
Therefore, not taking this date into account and<br>
simply relying on projections may lead to<br>
surprises down the line.<br>
<br>
(If at all possible, lets not get into how<br>
enormously "different" POSReady and normal XP are<br>
supposed to be and how "unsupported" and<br>
"problematic" using these updates is. The fact is,<br>
plenty of people are using this method; and the<br>
amount of reported problems has been negligible.)<br>
<br>
Valdis<br>
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