<div dir="ltr"><div><div>I think the concern is that it's "indefinite" in the sense that the plan is vague about when support for ESR52 would end. And so the risk is that different people have different understanding of how long that's likely to continue, and that we find ourselves painted into a corner with needing to support ESR52 far longer than anyone thought we would. (As an extreme example, what would happen if XP usage stopped declining?)<br><br></div>I'd suggest placing bounds on it, so we can all be on the same page and comfortable with what's being committed to. E.G. "We project that at current rates, XP usage is expected to drop to X% by the normal end of ESR52. If, at the normal end of ESR52, usage remains above X+e%, we will further extend the life of ESR52 for an additional Z months. After that Z months, ESR52 will be discontinued irrespective of usage."<br></div><div><br></div>Justin<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Gervase Markham <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gerv@mozilla.org" target="_blank">gerv@mozilla.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 13/10/16 00:17, L. David Baron wrote:<br>
> This sounds like the potential to be a commitment to support the<br>
> ESR52 branch for an indefinite amount of time.<br>
<br>
</span>No; it just means that the fate of XP/Vista is tied to how long we wish<br>
to maintain ESR52. We can stop maintaining it any time we want, it's<br>
just that with that, we will stop supporting those OSes.<br>
<br>
We should put in place a plan to change the home page for XP/Vista<br>
users, once support expires, to "this operating system is no longer<br>
supported, has known security holes and is dangerous to use on the web<br>
with any browser, not just Firefox. Please consider upgrading your<br>
operating system or replacing your computer."<br>
<br>
Gerv<br>
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