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Shumway is not a first-class plugin (yet), so it doesn't show up in
navigator.plugins. If you don't have the Flash plugin installed,
websites that rely on navigator.plugins for plugin detection won't
know that you have a Flash-compatible Shumway installed. If you do
have Flash installed, Shumway hooks into Firefox's click-to-play
handler to override Flash (for sites that match the
"shumway.swf.whitelist" pref). If the whitelist pref is "*" then
Shumway will override Flash (unless you click the orange "Shumway X"
overlay to fallback to Flash).<br>
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Shumway will become a real, out-of-process plugin when "jsplugins"
bug 1092119 lands. johns started jspulgins in 2014 and bz will land
them soon-ish. Then Shumway will show up in navigator.plugins as
"Shockwave Flash" and plugin detection will work without having
Flash installed.<br>
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On 2/13/15 10:50 AM, Justin Dolske wrote:<br>
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<div>Nice!<br>
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How will plans for Shumway interact with users who don't
have Flash installed (such at myself)? For the most part I'm
not missing it (ads!), but OTOH it would be nice for
specific cases where a site does need Flash for something
useful.<br>
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Also, does Shumway indirectly rely on Flash being installed
(ie, so a page can detect it via navigator.plugins and such)?
Curiously, Amazon seems to already do HTML5 fallback for the
example product tour. Works the same for me in Nightly with
shumway.disabled set to true, as well as in Firefox 35.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Chris
Peterson <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cpeterson@mozilla.com" target="_blank">cpeterson@mozilla.com</a>></span>
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Firefox Nightly channel now uses Shumway to play Flash
videos on Amazon.com. The Shumway team has been improving
compatibility with Flash video players and will whitelist
more Flash video sites soon.<br>
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Shumway will play Amazon's "Product Tour" and user-submitted
review videos like these:<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JG8GOWU" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JG8GOWU</a>
(Click the Kindle "Product Tour" button on the left.)<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.amazon.com/review/RIWNO96MF2QVV"
target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/review/RIWNO96MF2QVV</a><br>
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Note that Shumway will *not* play Amazon's "Instant Video"
films and TV shows. Those videos use Microsoft's Silverlight
plugin for DRM.<br>
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This test is restricted to the Nightly channel on Windows
Vista+ and OS X. Shumway needs H.264 video decoders that may
not be available on Windows XP or Linux.<br>
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If you have any questions, please drop by the #shumway IRC
channel. If you'd like to test Shumway on more websites, you
can install the full Shumway add-on that is not limited to
Amazon.com here:<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.areweflashyet.com/shumway/"
target="_blank">http://www.areweflashyet.com/shumway/</a><br>
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chris<br>
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