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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/7/14 4:34 PM, Bryan Clark wrote:<br>
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<div>As a person living in Canada running the en-US build I
understand. Using the locale as the only key for choosing
Tiles won't ever be very useful. Actually it is a problem
in a number of other ways as well. You don't have the
correct spell check dictionary, search engines, and
general localization of the menu items. <br>
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We might have the opportunity to offer a local experience
but right now there isn't a good system in Firefox for
that. Are there solutions out there that others are aware
of? We've been looking into ways we can correct for the
incorrect locale but I'd appreciate input from people here.<br>
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<div>As for choosing Tiles we're working on an open process,
I'll give you my vision of it right now. (This is as I see
it, not necessarily indicative of what it will be) The goal
I have sketched out is a set of Tiles localized by the
community but using whatever data metrics we can get back
(via Telemetry or other methods) to verify our choices.
Each region would likely have a list of more than 9 Tiles
that rotate into a given build. After the community votes
to add a new Tile we do a "test run" where all builds
include the new Tile for some period of time (lets say a
couple months) after which we look back at the usage data.
This doesn't mean we have to live and die by data but
ideally reinforce good choices with real information (if
possible). Tiles which get well used could stay and poorly
used Tiles which have run for a certain period could be
removed from the list. <br>
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This is where it gets hard, and leads to the skepticism that we
can't do a good job of picking the "right" content when people use
the internet for so many different purposes, and the things that
aren't "on-purpose" are often viewed as getting in the way.
Separation on locale is just one of the dimensions that need to be
matched to get the right content to the right set of people.<br>
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This research shows how differences in gender and age might also be
desirable content and activity on the web.<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0931238.html">http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0931238.html</a><br>
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That's the great thing about the web. Its not like commercial TV
where a few people get to pick what everyone should see, or even
like cable TV where there might be hundreds or thousands of
choices. The web means unlimited choice and everyone gets to tune
their own experience.<br>
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How exactly will the data tell us if we've made good choices, or
bad? And how do users get to "tune" their own choices in this
feature. Those are the hard question to be thinking about.<br>
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-chofmann<br>
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Assuming it's possible to create a dynamic system like this
I would hope it gives each community much more control and
awareness over the choices for their region. What we have
now is just a baseline guess that needs validation. I've
ignored a number of details here including getting clearance
from websites to link to them and all the behind the scenes
work of getting the correct images etc. but that boring
stuff I can detail out later.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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<div class="">On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Bryan Clark
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> What has landed are kind of placeholders, we're
experimenting with what how<br>
> sponsored tiles should be indicated. There are no
sponsorship deals in place<br>
> for anything yet, we're looking to iterate with the
design of our sponsored<br>
> tile indicator and measure if people find these
valuable before considering<br>
> a business deal.<br>
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Thanks for the info. I guess Wired and Trulia essentially
random<br>
choices that somebody made, and they don't have any
particular<br>
meaning?<br>
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It looks like the sponsored tiles will be tied to the
locale. It's<br>
worth noting that this can lead to some unhelpful
suggestions. For<br>
example, I'm in Australia so I get the en-US locale. Most of
the<br>
suggestions are fine, but Trulia is entirely uninteresting,
because it<br>
doesn't work outside the US. Canadians, New Zealanders, etc,
will be<br>
in the same boat, and I imagine there could be similar cases
with<br>
other locales.<br>
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Nick<br>
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