<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Madhava Enros <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:madhava@mozilla.com" target="_blank">madhava@mozilla.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana"><div>Hi all -<br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm confused -- why are we still talking about content shifting? Aren't we agreed the the proposal/implementation currently on the table should not shift content down -- that it should overlay instead?</div>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Where did this agreement happen? Gavin mentioned that we want to get feedback about the current implementation on beta, which sort of implied that this feedback will be part of the decision of whether to ship what we currently have?<br>
</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana"><div> This is what I see in UX Nightly, at least most of the time -- are we not currently on the road to that being what happens all the time?<br>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Is that the same behavior as in regular Nightly? i.e, do you see the content shifting in Gmail or Zimbra for example?<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana"><div></div><div>To me, with that caveat, I think this is worth shipping for the reasons I outlined before as well as the one Asa mentions (cross-browser consistency -- we know that most people use multiple browsers for different tasks). It doesn't contain everything we want to do, but it's a worthwhile increment in that direction.<br>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I never questioned whether the find bar should be at the top. I would like to argue that if that is our goal, then we should come up with a decent implementation for it. It seems to me that currently the implementation difficulties are dictating the UX of the find bar (e.g., it was more work to make it overlay the content correctly, so we just made it not shift content some of the time, etc.)<br>
</div><div><br clear="all"><div>--<br>Ehsan<br><<a href="http://ehsanakhgari.org/">http://ehsanakhgari.org/</a>></div><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana"><div></div><div>Madhava<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><hr><div style="font-size:12pt;font-style:normal;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">
<div class="im"><b>From: </b>"Asa Dotzler" <<a href="mailto:asa@mozilla.com" target="_blank">asa@mozilla.com</a>><br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:firefox-dev@mozilla.org" target="_blank">firefox-dev@mozilla.org</a><br>
</div><b>Sent: </b>Friday, August 23, 2013 12:48:50 PM<div class="im"><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: The new find bar shifting down content<br><div><br></div></div><div><div class="h5">I'm excited to see the Find bar enhancements coming along -- especially <br>
the word counting and highlighting previews I've seen. However, I'm not <br>sure that moving the Find bar to the top is worth as much time and <br>attention as this feature is taking.<br><div><br></div>I'm not sure what's driving the move of the Find bar to the top of the <br>
page other than it being one of the many Find in page paper cuts. I'm <br>not saying it's a bad idea, but it's not a priority feature, IMO -- <br>certainly not enough of a priority to ship in an incomplete state <br>
risking user attrition.<br><div><br></div>IMO, the most valuable reason to move the bar is consistency with all of <br>the other modern browsers. While I think we could make a solid case <br>that a bar at the top is a better experience, content shifting is not an <br>
acceptable trade-off.<br><div><br></div>Can we move our focus to the other potential wins like better <br>highlighting and word counting and put together a new plan for moving <br>the Find bar to the top that has as it's first requirement to not shift <br>
content?<br><div><br></div>- A<br>_______________________________________________<br>firefox-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:firefox-dev@mozilla.org" target="_blank">firefox-dev@mozilla.org</a><br><a href="https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/firefox-dev" target="_blank">https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/firefox-dev</a><br>
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