<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Markus Stange <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mstange@themasta.com" target="_blank">mstange@themasta.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Ehsan Akhgari <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ehsan.akhgari@gmail.com" target="_blank">ehsan.akhgari@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br><div>However, I would feel a lot better if somebody came up with reasons why shifting the content up/down is actually desired.</div>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>I don't think it's desired, ever.<br></div><div class="im"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> The only reasoning in favor of the current behavior that I've seen is <<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893446#c14" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893446#c14</a>> (the first paragraph),</div>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>This makes no sense to me. Attention is drawn towards things that move and drawn away from the things that stay fixed. If everything is moving, attention is drawn everywhere it once, which can't work.<br>
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<div> but based on the later discussion in the bug, it seems to me that this behavior is generally not desired, which caused us to come up with a solution which works some of the time but not all of the time, and will break on some popular websites such as Gmail. And it's not clear at all why this half-working solution was implemented instead of other proposals which will give at least a consistent, if not superior, experience all the time.<br>
</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Which other proposals are you referring to? The only other consistent proposal I know of was adapting Chrome's solution.</div></div></div></div></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>Yes, that's what I was talking about.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">
<div class="gmail_quote"><div>I implemented the half-working solution because I overestimated the percentage of pages which it work on, because Mike gave positive feedback on it, and because I did not have the time and energy for a Chrome-like full reimplementation.<span class=""><font color="#888888"></font></span></div>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for explaining the background. Note that I am not trying to blame you or anybody else here, apologies if it seemed otherwise. :-) I'm just discussing this in the hopes that we don't end up shipping this without understanding the ramifications.<br>
<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br clear="all"></div><div><div>--<br>Ehsan<br><<a href="http://ehsanakhgari.org/">http://ehsanakhgari.org/</a>></div> </div></div></div></div>