Question about the new bookmarking frame of Firefox 62

Dão Gottwald dgottwald at mozilla.com
Tue Aug 21 08:41:16 UTC 2018


2018-08-19 10:44 GMT+02:00 Lukas Waymann <lb.waym at gmail.com>:

> The web-page provided image would be from an `og:image` meta tag, right?
> That makes much more sense; are there plans to support using those in
> the bookmark dialog?
>

Vague plans with no definitive resolution at the moment. We can't load the
image on demand here, as this would make it show up with a noticeable
delay. We need the image to be already loaded when opening the dialog, so
we'd need to speculatively load it for every page in case the user wants to
bookmark it.


> Either way, I think it may be reasonable to postpone showing these
> previews/screenshots in a release version until the card metaphor is
> implemented in more places, and the value the previews/screenshots add
> is more easily evident to users.
>

I'd support this. I've CC'd Bryan Bell, the UX person in charge of this.


> Maybe it would generally be sufficient to only show an image in the
> bookmark dialog when an Open Graph image is available?
>

Probably not an option since we want to use the card metaphor consistently.

Regards,
Dao


>
> (I realize "an explicit non-goal" of firefox-dev is to "offer community
> members the chance to post until they get satisfaction about their
> concerns."  Feel free to point me anywhere else I can take this
> discussion.)
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 02:48:54PM +0200, Dão Gottwald wrote:
> > I can't fully answer the question but at least provide some context.
> >
> > 1. The basic idea was to establish a "card" metaphor. A card would, in
> > different contexts, consistently represent a site and always have a
> title,
> > an image, and a favicon.
> >
> > 2. The original design asks for a web-page provided preview image (see
> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8974355). We don't have
> the
> > infrastructure in place to use these images here, and many pages just
> won't
> > provide one, so we'd fall back to the screenshot.
> >
> > (1) is a vision that we're only starting to implement. I'm not sure that
> > the bookmark dialog is the best place to start. (2) will continue to be
> an
> > issue -- a screenshot will always look redundant when you're already on
> the
> > page.
> >
> > 2018-08-16 11:06 GMT+02:00 Lukas Waymann <meribold at gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This is about the new bookmarking frame of Firefox 62: I was wondering
> > > what the advantage of showing a small screenshot of the current webpage
> > > is?  Isn't that screenshot just a thumbnail of the page the user is
> > > already looking at anyway?
> > >
> > > I'm referring to <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1460248
> >.
> > >
> > > Off-topic: I asked this question in #ux first, but was told that IRC
> > > channel is mostly dead as the UX team moved to a non-public channel on
> > > Slack.  I also failed to find a more specialized mailing list to send
> > > this message to.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Lukas
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