firefox development process changes -- motivation/goals?

Gavin Sharp gavin at
Thu Aug 7 19:02:49 UTC 2014

Here's a rough go at the reasoning:

> We will eliminate the Tuesday status meetings entirely

A meeting just didn't seem to be working very well to track status,
and it seemed tedious for the people attending to have to sit around
while other people provided detailed updates. Eliminating the meeting
and shifting to async status reporting seemed better overall (more
effective and less burdensome).

> We will eliminate the "Eastern" planning meeting

There ended up being very few people in those meetings, and none of
the attendees minded going to the (only slightly earlier) "European"

> GMC will be reviewing UX bugs and breakdown bugs as they are completed

The problem: stuff was landing in Firefox (or work was being done)
that the desktop leadership team (and the broader team in general)
wasn't aware of, and sometimes disagreed with. I can't think of
examples offhand, but both Chad and I got the feeling that we should
do a better job of staying on top of things. There's a reasonable
concern that this proposed solution will be overly burdensome and/or
won't scale, which is why we're just trying this out, and will adjust
as needed. The goal of the review is to just "be aware", and have an
opportunity to comment or guide the direction of high-level efforts.
This is something that we are committing to, and not something we
expect to have significant impact on the team (most of the time people
make the right call, and we already help guide decisions in many
areas, just not all).


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Gijs Kruitbosch
<gijskruitbosch at> wrote:
> (separate email because I think this is a slightly different take on this
> message)
> On 30/07/2014 00:41, Gavin Sharp wrote:
>> Changes in Iteration 34.2:
>> - We will eliminate the Tuesday status meetings entirely. In their place,
>> we will ask all team members to provide daily updates via bsmedberg's status
>> tool. Updates should be short and submitted at the beginning of your day,
>> and mention what you accomplished yesterday, what you plan to do today, and
>> anything you're blocked on. Your updates should include specific status
>> updates for each of the bugs that you're committed to: "work in progress",
>> "in review", or "landed".
>> - We will eliminate the "Eastern" planning meeting, and move to having
>> only two planning meetings every other Tuesday (Europe and Pacific).
>> - in order to better track the team's progress at a high level, GMC will
>> be reviewing UX bugs and breakdown bugs as they are completed
> (I've snipped out the bits that (AFAICT) had a motivation in the first line
> of the email or included with the changes, id est to reduce "Carry over"
> work and to ensure that we don't do estimation in the Tuesday meetings)
> The remaining 3 changes in this email (quoted above) were announced without
> a (to me!) clear motivation[0]. Can you elaborate on why these change are
> being made and/or what their goal(s) is/are?
> ~ Gijs
> [0] The last one implies that the motivation is to "track the team's
> progress at a high level", and the action is "reviewing UX & breakdown bugs"
> - but it is not clear to me what either the motivation boils down to (ie
> what is the problem being solved) nor what the action is (what kind of
> review, leading to what consequences?). I accept this might be more of a
> misunderstanding on my part, but I would appreciate clarification all the
> same. :-)
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