Why globalThis instead of something intuitive like globalObject, systemGlobal, or globalEntity?

#!/JoePea joe at trusktr.io
Thu Nov 21 22:37:07 UTC 2019


I should stop asking questions about something that is highly-unlikely
to change! I can live with it. :) Thanks anyways for the insights. -
Joe

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:21 PM #!/JoePea <joe at trusktr.io> wrote:
>
> > They were duly marked invalid, because the problem was with the expectations, not the behavior...
>
> It's a design bug. I know, impossible to fix. I consider such things
> valid bugs, even if no action can be taken on them.
>
> > because reality does not match what they had been told
>
> Reality didn't match what was intuitive. I'd say it is a DX flaw.
>
> Honestly though, I don't know what a fix would be.
>
> I'm not sure I even know what "globalThis" means now. :)
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 11:52 AM Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky at mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > On 11/16/19 12:52 PM, #!/JoePea wrote:
> > > That's the thing: the only people that may get confused are Ecmascript
> > > and JS-Engine experts who know the internals very intimately.
> >
> > No, it's just people who have functions return values they do not expect.
> >
> > > and for those people that could possibly get confused, it would be
> > > because they are familiar with browser internals (or hit a browser
> > > *bug* like you describe)
> >
> > No, you misunderstand.  The bug reports were filed because the behavior
> > was not what people expected.  They were duly marked invalid, because
> > the problem was with the expectations, not the behavior...
> >
> > > For all intents and purpose, every developer I've talked to, and every
> > > article I've read, treats things like `window` as the global object.
> >
> > And this is mostly fine as long as you don't call functions from
> > navigated-away-from windows. Which most people don't, most of the time.
> > And when they do, they get _very_ confused by the results, because
> > reality does not match what they had been told.
> >
> > But that doesn't mean we should double down on telling them things that
> > don't match reality.
> >
> > > I strongly believe that things should be made intuitive for the vast
> > > majority of users
> >
> > I agree, but in this specific context, what does that mean in terms of
> > concrete proposals you are making?
> >
> > -Boris


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