JSON support for BigInt in ES6.
Anders Rundgren
anders.rundgren.net at gmail.com
Tue Aug 14 18:53:27 UTC 2018
On 2018-08-14 20:30, Michael Theriot wrote:
> I've been brainstorming a few days and this is the same idea I reached.
> I just wasn't sure if returning some kind of special object (JSON.Fragment)
> was a good way to handle stringify.
Since we now are three who have the same (basic) idea it can't be all bad :-)
>
> Elaborating, basically a third argument would come back in
> JSON.parse reviver method, which is the actual string that was > parsed (not the parsed value).
Indeed, this *exactly* what my proposal suggests:
https://github.com/cyberphone/es6-bigint-json-support#22-rfc-mode-deserialization
The only difference is that my proposal is dedicated to JSON Number while Michal suggest JSON fragments.
The JSONNumber object can due to this restriction support additional number-related methods aiding the parsing process:
https://github.com/cyberphone/es6-bigint-json-support#223-syntax-checking-deserialization
Since the only non-conformant part of the JSON object actually is JSON Number, it seems like a dedicated solution would be more appropriate.
Anders
When stringifying, a JSON.Fragment would not get parsed but inserts the underlying string value (which must be valid JSON).
>
> JSON.Fragment would just be a way to use valid, raw strings in JSON. E.g.
> JSON.stringify([0]) === JSON.stringify(JSON.Fragment("[0]")
>
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018, Michał Wadas <michalwadas at gmail.com <mailto:michalwadas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Personally, I would like to see:
> - third argument to JSON.parse reviver, "raw string"
> - new class JSON.Fragment accepting any syntactically valid JSON in constructor (eg. new JSON.Fragment('99999999999999999')
> - returning JSON.Fragment from JSON.stringify would paste it as-it-is into string output
>
> This should cover any Bigint use case without breaking backward compatibility.
>
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2018, 07:57 Anders Rundgren, <anders.rundgren.net at gmail.com <mailto:anders.rundgren.net at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On 2018-08-14 06:55, J Decker wrote:
> > my primary usage of json is
> > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebSockets_API/Writing_WebSocket_client_applications#Using_JSON_to_transmit_objects <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebSockets_API/Writing_WebSocket_client_applications#Using_JSON_to_transmit_objects>
> >
> > in which case JSON.parse( JSON.strinigfy( msg ) ) really needs to result in the same sort of thing as the input; although I guess dates do get lost in translation anyway, but they could be handled as numbers with a few more character exceptions ':','-'(in a number),'Z',' ' the last one (the space) complicating the whole thing immensely; there is no meaning of multiple numbers without a ',' between them in JSON, so maybe not so impossible.
> >
> > and given the requirement that seems to be lost, that bigints ONLY interop with bigints, they MUST decode the same as their encoding; the JSONnumber type almost works; but requires custom code every time bigints are used. (much like dates)
> >
> > what writing a JSON parser taught me, is the type of a variable is the type of the data it has; and JSON does a really good job of representing 99% of generally communicated types. which makes generic code quite easy... without having to respecify/recast the data, the data is already the type it is.
>
> Since the JSON standard doesn't distinguish between a single bit or BigNumber, I guess you are proposing extensions to JSON?
>
>
> > but there's certainly fewer of me, than of those that thing everything is perfectly fine, and shouldn't evolve as the langugage has.
> > but then there's 'don't break the net' and 'this could certainy break the net'; but since bigints didn't exist before, I guess they shouldn't be added now, because sending them to old code would break the old code.... but actually since being added; should also update JSON to support that number type (although I guess base JSON doesn't suppose ES6 number encodings like 0x, 0b, etc...)
> >
> > and again, since bigints ONLY interop with other bigints, there should be no chance they will get lost in interpretation.
> >
> > can see JSONnumber can aid application handling; but if you send bigints to an application that doesn't support bigints it's not going to work anyway; so why not just let existing json.parse throw when it doens't have bigint support?
>
> The proposal is targeting *cross-platform applications* using JSON. The only thing it adds is offering a way to use JSON Number formatting for new numeric types, in addition to the quoting schemes which already are fully supported (and extensively used as well).
>
> Example: A java class element like `BigInteger big;` used in a JSON context presumes that all values targeting "big" should be treated as BigIntger (=BigInt). However, there are different practices for formatting BigIntegers in JSON and they are all "right" :-)
>
> In essence, the proposal's only ambition is making the ES6 JSON object better aligned with an already established JSON reality.
>
> Anders
>
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:33 AM Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net at gmail.com <mailto:anders.rundgren.net at gmail.com> <mailto:anders.rundgren.net at gmail.com <mailto:anders.rundgren.net at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > For good or for worse I have written a proposal for https://github.com/tc39/proposal-bigint/issues/162 <https://github.com/tc39/proposal-bigint/issues/162>
> > available at https://github.com/cyberphone/es6-bigint-json-support#json-support-for-bigint-in-es6 <https://github.com/cyberphone/es6-bigint-json-support#json-support-for-bigint-in-es6>
> >
> > Since the proposal doesn't introduce a default serialization mode, I guess nobody will be happy :-(
> > OTOH, a fairly decent rationale for not specifying a default is also provided :-)
> > This comment is also worth reading: https://github.com/tc39/proposal-bigint/issues/162#issuecomment-409700859 <https://github.com/tc39/proposal-bigint/issues/162#issuecomment-409700859>
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Anders
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