How many ES5 environments are still in use today?

Isiah Meadows isiahmeadows at gmail.com
Wed Apr 4 00:30:56 UTC 2018


Yeah, LibreJS is a browser extension, not a runtime. (There exist
runtimes they support, e.g. SpiderMonkey.)

And I do agree the GNU people can be a bit out there. (I'm not
convinced that's the worst I've seen from them - look at the
Linux-libre stuff and some of the {L,}GPL political drama, especially
with v3.)
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On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Michael J. Ryan <tracker1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> LibreJS looks like a browser extension, not a JS engine...
>
> Aside, wow, I'm in favor of open-source, but this one is pretty out there.
>
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> Michael J. Ryan - http://tracker1.info
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 11:11 AM Joe Eagar <joeedh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> LibreJS? The FSF is seriously escalating the plugin/scripting issue?
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:07 PM, J Decker <d3ck0r at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Andrea Giammarchi
>>> <andrea.giammarchi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I guess when it comes to other projects Wikipedia Wikipedia should be
>>>> enough:
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ECMAScript_engines
>>>>
>>>
>>> They're missing at least one...
>>> https://www.gnu.org/software/librejs/ which looks like it is missing es6
>>> features (as of aug last year anyway... still?)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> FWIW I think only Chakra, SpiderMonkey, JavaScriptCore, Nashorn,
>>>> QtScript (although, not standard at all), Duktape, Moddable (R.I.P. Kinoma),
>>>> Espruino, MuJS (new to me!), and JerryScript are the actively
>>>> used/developed/maintained, and the list misses GJS, but I guess that's
>>>> because it's based on SpiderMonkey.
>>>>
>>>> Purely ES5 start with IE9 on browser land, but includes IE11 too which
>>>> is still quite popular.
>>>>
>>>> Not fully ES2015 is Chrome 49 which is the latest Chrome version
>>>> supported in both Windows XP and Vista and there are still users that won't
>>>> let that old/cracked OS go, regardless all security issues they have.
>>>>
>>>> Opera 36 is at the same state of Chrome 49, and things are pretty
>>>> different on mobile too.
>>>>
>>>> All phones from 2015 are stuck behind older Android versions or, even
>>>> worst, Samsung Internet, like it is for the Galaxy A3 case which is still a
>>>> pretty good looking phone.
>>>>
>>>> However, Samsung Browser 4.0 is not too bad compared to IE11, as you can
>>>> see in this gist:
>>>>
>>>> https://gist.github.com/WebReflection/1411b420574c1cc4b4f08fcf9cd960c8#gistcomment-2399378
>>>>
>>>> Have I answered your question ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 9:18 PM, /#!/JoePea <joe at trusktr.io> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious to know how many pure ES% environments (with or without
>>>>> non-standard features like __proto__, and without any ES6 features) are
>>>>> still being used in the wild.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would this come down to a browser statistics lookup? I believe there
>>>>> are other projects that use ES, like Rhino, Espruino, etc. Do you know of
>>>>> some place to get such statistics besides for browsers?
>>>>>
>>>>> /#!/JoePea
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