How many ES5 environments are still in use today?
andrea.giammarchi at gmail.com
Tue Apr 3 00:56:50 UTC 2018
fair enough, I've considered "pure ES%" every engine I've mentioned 'cause
in a way ot another they are compatible with ES3, ES5, and "ES6" which is a
well known acronym in the industry.
Rhino sounds like legacy these days, and so does anything else stuck at ES3
FWIW I would never support anything stuck at ES3 for the simple reason
we're talking 20 years ago specification (it wasn't that bad, it's just
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 12:59 AM, Isiah Meadows <isiahmeadows at gmail.com>
> I think you forgot to include Rhino. There's still quite a few who
> haven't migrated over to Nashorn, since Rhino has a widely differing
> API. It's no longer as actively maintained, but it still has a
> substantial user base. (It's ES5 compatible, but has no ES6 features.)
> Also, IIRC, Nashorn has made attempts to implement ES6, so I wouldn't
> consider it pure ES5 anymore.
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> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Andrea Giammarchi
> <andrea.giammarchi at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I guess when it comes to other projects Wikipedia Wikipedia should be
> > enough:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ECMAScript_engines
> > (although, not standard at all), Duktape, Moddable (R.I.P. Kinoma),
> > Espruino, MuJS (new to me!), and JerryScript are the actively
> > used/developed/maintained, and the list misses GJS, but I guess that's
> > because it's based on SpiderMonkey.
> > Purely ES5 start with IE9 on browser land, but includes IE11 too which is
> > still quite popular.
> > Not fully ES2015 is Chrome 49 which is the latest Chrome version
> > in both Windows XP and Vista and there are still users that won't let
> > old/cracked OS go, regardless all security issues they have.
> > Opera 36 is at the same state of Chrome 49, and things are pretty
> > on mobile too.
> > All phones from 2015 are stuck behind older Android versions or, even
> > Samsung Internet, like it is for the Galaxy A3 case which is still a
> > good looking phone.
> > However, Samsung Browser 4.0 is not too bad compared to IE11, as you can
> > in this gist:
> > https://gist.github.com/WebReflection/1411b420574c1cc4b4f08fcf9cd960
> > Have I answered your question ?
> > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 9:18 PM, /#!/JoePea <joe at trusktr.io> wrote:
> >> I'm curious to know how many pure ES% environments (with or without
> >> non-standard features like __proto__, and without any ES6 features) are
> >> still being used in the wild.
> >> Would this come down to a browser statistics lookup? I believe there are
> >> other projects that use ES, like Rhino, Espruino, etc. Do you know of
> >> place to get such statistics besides for browsers?
> >> /#!/JoePea
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