Tracking proposals should be standardized with issues

Jordan Harband ljharb at
Wed May 11 23:00:39 UTC 2016

New proposals should be a repo. Any discussion or changes in the proposal
should be centered in that repo. Those repos will be transferred to the
TC39 org once they hit stage 1. That repo should include links to any
relevant es-discuss threads.

Old proposals may be mired in legacy wikis and es-discuss threads, but new
ones shouldn't be.

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Isiah Meadows <isiahmeadows at>

> Here's my concerns:
> 1. People are going to blow up the issues they like, instead of either
> creating issues in those related repos or finding more appropriate channels
> for them.
> 2. People are going to start filling issues for whatever proposal they
> came up with, without really deliberating over it, and without bringing it
> up on es-discuss at all. This will lead to way more to sift through than
> what should be necessary.
> 3. Making proposals as simple as creating an issue (at least from the
> casual observer's perspective) will lead into a lot of "this is a good
> idea" strawmen of likely very low quality. The higher barrier of entry
> helps filter most of that out other than here in the mailing list.
> On Wed, May 11, 2016, 17:58 Brandon Andrews <warcraftthreeft at>
> wrote:
>> For those not aware of the "currently compiled list" he's referring to
>> this It has no clear history other than
>> viewing the change log.
>> I agree. Ideally every link on that page should link to an issue that
>> tracks the information. This would allow for much cleaner archival of
>> proposals. People just need to be clear that each proposal issue is for
>> status purposes only. The issue for each proposal could contain a link to
>> the proposal's github repo where the mailing list and issues could be found.
>> > It would also be worthwhile to organize more general design ideas into
>> issues that could be referenced by specific proposals.
>> The thinking right now seems to be that people creating proposals should
>> reference mailing list discussions directly. Creating issues would just
>> mean people would be referencing an issue which then references mailing
>> list threads. I do see the the usefulness though. Currently there are
>> probably over 10 threads for null coalescing operators under multiple
>> names. The mailing list has no method for marking duplicates so the posts
>> generally just reference each other. I posted about this months ago, but I
>> don't think there's any interest in simplifying this.
>> In theory under the current system you should create a proposal then get
>> it to stage 0 then everyone would reference the proposal which would then
>> reference the full list of discussions. That is general design ideas really
>> just need a stage 0 proposal.
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