Tracking proposals should be standardized with issues

Isiah Meadows isiahmeadows at
Wed May 11 22:08:28 UTC 2016

Here's my concerns:

1. People are going to blow up the issues they like, instead of either
creating issues in those related repos or finding more appropriate channels
for them.
2. People are going to start filling issues for whatever proposal they came
up with, without really deliberating over it, and without bringing it up on
es-discuss at all. This will lead to way more to sift through than what
should be necessary.
3. Making proposals as simple as creating an issue (at least from the
casual observer's perspective) will lead into a lot of "this is a good
idea" strawmen of likely very low quality. The higher barrier of entry
helps filter most of that out other than here in the mailing list.

On Wed, May 11, 2016, 17:58 Brandon Andrews <warcraftthreeft at>

> For those not aware of the "currently compiled list" he's referring to
> this It has no clear history other than
> viewing the change log.
> I agree. Ideally every link on that page should link to an issue that
> tracks the information. This would allow for much cleaner archival of
> proposals. People just need to be clear that each proposal issue is for
> status purposes only. The issue for each proposal could contain a link to
> the proposal's github repo where the mailing list and issues could be found.
> > It would also be worthwhile to organize more general design ideas into
> issues that could be referenced by specific proposals.
> The thinking right now seems to be that people creating proposals should
> reference mailing list discussions directly. Creating issues would just
> mean people would be referencing an issue which then references mailing
> list threads. I do see the the usefulness though. Currently there are
> probably over 10 threads for null coalescing operators under multiple
> names. The mailing list has no method for marking duplicates so the posts
> generally just reference each other. I posted about this months ago, but I
> don't think there's any interest in simplifying this.
> In theory under the current system you should create a proposal then get
> it to stage 0 then everyone would reference the proposal which would then
> reference the full list of discussions. That is general design ideas really
> just need a stage 0 proposal.
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