Process of proposing targeted deconstruction

John Gardner gardnerjohng at gmail.com
Wed Jun 1 15:04:43 UTC 2016


It is? I was counting how many JavaScript versions it'd take before Domino
Cola <https://blog.domenic.me/> shot this thread down.

*SERIOUSLY THOUGH:* If somebody could give me a definitive answer on where
and how to go about getting a language feature proposed and considered,
that'd be copacetic as hell.

On 2 June 2016 at 01:02, Caitlin Potter <caitpotter88 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyways, instead of arguing about the colloquial vs long/tedious naming
> conventions, it might be be better not to derail the thread about a
> language feature proposal.
>
> > On Jun 1, 2016, at 10:47 AM, kdex <kdex at kdex.de> wrote:
> >
> > I could swear that I've read that one intent was to release an updated
> ES standard yearly, so in theory, even the smaller indexes should change
> just as often as the years on a calendar. :p
> > The majority should already have broken the habit calling it "harmony",
> so it's not like we haven't been there before.
> >
> > I think it's just a matter of time for people to realize that an offset
> of `year – 2009` has the potential to be confusing in the long run.
> > (Maybe worth mentioning: If mankind still exists in the year 4024, the
> names will clash :p)
> >
> > On Mittwoch, 1. Juni 2016 10:17:42 CEST Caitlin Potter wrote:
> >> Honestly, I don’t think so — Colloquially, it’s just easier to deal
> with small indexes vs dates/years. They’re shorter, they don’t change as
> often (in theory). It’s a hard habit to break for most people.
> >>
> >>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 10:09 AM, kdex <kdex at kdex.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> @caitlin Good find, but this directory name was presumably only given
> to match the naming scheme of [1] and [2].
> >>> Somebody should probably do the work and rename them all.
> >>>
> >>> @leo: The Chrome Platform Status page [3] also mentions "ES8".
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://chromium.googlesource.com/v8/v8/+/master/test/mjsunit/es6/
> >>> [2] https://chromium.googlesource.com/v8/v8/+/master/test/mjsunit/es7
> >>> [3] https://www.chromestatus.com/features/5644533144485888
> >>>
> >>> On Mittwoch, 1. Juni 2016 10:01:18 CEST Caitlin Potter wrote:
> >>>> Oh sure you have,
> >>>>
> >>>> https://chromium.googlesource.com/v8/v8/+/master/test/mjsunit/es8/ <
> https://chromium.googlesource.com/v8/v8/+/master/test/mjsunit/es8/> for
> instance :p
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Leo Balter <leonardo.balter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I haven't seen anyone referring to ES2017 as ES8, so I imagine we
> won't have this problem anymore in a couple years. In anyway, this is an
> addition that won't happen to ES2016, it's too late for that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:36 AM, John Gardner <gardnerjohng at gmail.com
> <mailto:gardnerjohng at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>> There is no such thing as ES7.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You say that as though you can control how people index language
> versions in their minds...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 1 June 2016 at 23:33, Mark S. Miller <erights at google.com <mailto:
> erights at google.com>> wrote:
> >>>>> ES2015 was the last version for which the short for ("ES6") was also
> in common use. After that, there is only ES2016 etc. There is no such thing
> as ES7.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 3:03 PM, John Gardner <gardnerjohng at gmail.com
> <mailto:gardnerjohng at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>> I'd like to propose a simple yet potent syntax addition <
> https://esdiscuss.org/topic/constructing-objects-from-named-identifiers>
> for /ECMAScript\d+/. What's the most direct approach to get this officially
> considered? I've seen differing procedures mentioned in places and I'm
> unsure.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BTW, am I the only one getting confused by the year-based naming
> convention? I skip over intermediate letters when reading and only absorb
> the last digit, which makes me mistake ES2017 as ES7, which is actually
> ES2016, which I get mixed up with ES6, which is ES2015.
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>   Cheers,
> >>>>>   --MarkM
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