The Gamepad API assumes you aren't using the gamepad.

Florian Bösch pyalot at gmail.com
Sun Oct 25 08:26:21 UTC 2015


There is an API called "pointerlock" whose purpose is to allow you to
capture the mouse. An equivalent API is (as of yet) lacking in the gamepad
API, but it is requested as a feature:
https://github.com/w3c/gamepad/blob/gh-pages/FeatureRequests.md

On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 2:13 AM, Carl Smith <carl.input at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been looking at the Gamepad API. It's a nice API, and the scope is
> sensibly narrow, but I think it is just too limited.
>
> With smart TVs, games consoles, Android boxes and so on, lots of users
> are using joypads and remote controls to browse the Web. It's pretty
> clumsy, but when you only want to find an album on YouTube, it works.
>
> On the OUYA, buttons and axes are mapped to browser controls. FireFox
> on Android maps the shoulder buttons to Back and Forward, and the
> left axes pan the page. Chromium is similar. I'm not sure the
> vendors intended for that, but still.
>
> The issue is that the browser, extensions and webapps all want to use
> the same pad, but the API provides no way to 'take' or 'free' a pad.
>
> Once an app has access to a joypad, the browser will (must) just ignore
> the state of the pad for so long as the app can reference that pad. It
> can be difficult for the user to exit an app when the only input device
> they have to hand must be completely ignored by the browser. Users often
> want to keep the app open too.
>
> The problem is a lot like the problem of pages using bindings that
> conflict​ ​with the browser, only here, you have less keys, and the browser
> must let​ ​the page take over all the bindings.
>
> The Gamepad API should allow each pad to be 'taken' and 'dropped'.
>
> I'd suggest using a stack, with the browser always on the bottom. If an
> app calls `gamepad.take` it goes on the stack. It gets popped when it
> calls `gamepad.drop`. Whoever's on the top of a pad's stack has the
> pad all to itself.
>
> With a stack, for example, a browser extension could take the pad from
> the browser, and a game could then take the pad from the extension. The
> game could drop the pad once it was done, automatically returning the pad
> to the extension. The game wouldn't need to expect the extension.
>
> There'd need to be some place to attach two callbacks, so programs could
> handle the pad being taken and returned to them.
>
> No app *should* ever try and take the pad in the callback for when it's
> taken from them, but bad code might hog a pad or get into a fight over it.
> In any case, I think there should have always been a required, reserved
> 'menu' button on every mapping that the user can use open the browser
> menu. From there, they could close tabs etc.
>
> If something like this were to happen, browsers would need to support pads
> properly, at least allowing gamepad configs to be added by the user that
> would map ​'​​actions' to browser controls.​​
>
> The browser would ideally abstract actions - stuff like taps, double-taps,
> long-presses and combos (hold X and do Left, Right, Left)​, though
> ​extensions
> could handle that stuff if the ​Gamepad ​API ​were better (and all the
> browser
> actions are exposed to extensions).
>
> I tried building something with the Gamepad API and couldn't, so just
> wanted to offer some feedback really.
>
> One other thing: The inability of apps and extensions to grab the mouse
> ​prevents using an analogue stick to point and click.​ ​That's​ ​another​
> ​thing that can only be fixed at the browser level.
>
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