why not just import new language into browser?

[Andrea Giammarchi]

> the differences between frontend and backend or the database or os kernel
are minor to talented programmers.

nope


> an era of browser as a platform will surely come:-)

not sure what you mean, have a look at FirefoxOS


Anyway, I'm done here, so probably should you


On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:02 PM, eric <calidion at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Programmers are always facing different environments or problems.
> the differences between frontend and backend or the database or os kernel
> are minor to talented programmers.
> You are laugh at yourself.
>
> Abandoning dart doesn't mean that the way is wrong,  maybe only the timing
> is not proper.
>
> And finally is a netro language interface is not a plugin.
>
> an era of browser as a platform will surely come:-)
>
>
> 在 15/5/27 01:43, Andrea Giammarchi 写道:
>
> > then veryone can be a full stack programmer
>
>  I had a genuine laugh there ... it's like sayiing since JS runs on
> server, micro-controllers, and IndexedDB is a thing, everyone now is a full
> stack developer that could do server too.
>
>  Please do not merge these two very different topics ... if you know
> Python or C you won't move a single step forward on the Web and DOM.
> Different environments, problems, worlds, different everything ... you
> function validates an email? Good, how about everything else that could go
> wrong or is simply different?
>
>  Anyway, this is the development-toolchain era so if Google Dart is fine
> abandoning an alternative engine for its own browser and simply trust
> transpiling to JS, why wouldn't any other "different language" lover do the
> same?
>
>  It's also the era where everyone cannot wait for any sort of plugin to
> die due any sort of related problem ( looking at you Silverlight DRM
> streaming on Linux ) so regardless I agree there are cases where we'd like
> to have pure/native "other language" running on the browser (e.g. see also
> WebGL and GLES indirections) I don't think having the equivalent of LLVM
> interfaces for any sort of PL would bring any real-world benefit to the Web
> ... see, again and indeed, Emscripten to asm.js results
>
>  Regards
>
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:18 PM, eric <calidion at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  You are always misleading.
>>
>> what you've listed just show that the trend is real and urgent.
>>
>> but you choose to ignore it and mislead it.
>>
>> why asm.js ? because there is no support for c++/c from browsers.
>> what if the browsers support c++/c navtively?
>>
>> by
>> <script language="c" src="http://code.site.com/abc.o"
>> <http://code.site.com/abc.o>>
>> </script>
>> which will run faster than asm.js.
>> do we need asm.js then?
>>
>> if browser natively support languages like c, c++, python, ruby.
>> then veryone can be a full stack programmer,
>>
>>
>>
>> 在 15/5/27 00:35, Matthew Robb 写道:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:22 PM, eric <calidion at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> C++ can be compiled to C too.
>>> no one would say C is a neutral language interface.
>>>
>>
>> ​I'm sorry to tell you but the overwhelming trend within browsers is not
>> in favor of what you are proposing. C++ compiles to Javascript and is VERY
>> fast in that form.​
>> See: http://emscripten.org and http://asmjs.org/
>>
>>  If you don't think it will "catch on" then you should try to get more
>> informed on the subject.
>>
>>
>> https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/05/07/bringing-asm-js-to-chakra-microsoft-edge/
>>
>> ​Finally: http://alwaysbetonjs.com​
>>
>>
>>  - Matthew Robb
>>
>>
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