why not just import new language into browser?

[eric]

Programmers are always facing different environments or problems.
the differences between frontend and backend or the database or os 
kernel are minor to talented programmers.
You are laugh at yourself.

Abandoning dart doesn't mean that the way is wrong,  maybe only the 
timing is not proper.

And finally is a netro language interface is not a plugin.

an era of browser as a platform will surely come:-)


在 15/5/27 01:43, Andrea Giammarchi 写道:
> > then veryone can be a full stack programmer
>
> I had a genuine laugh there ... it's like sayiing since JS runs on 
> server, micro-controllers, and IndexedDB is a thing, everyone now is a 
> full stack developer that could do server too.
>
> Please do not merge these two very different topics ... if you know 
> Python or C you won't move a single step forward on the Web and DOM. 
> Different environments, problems, worlds, different everything ... you 
> function validates an email? Good, how about everything else that 
> could go wrong or is simply different?
>
> Anyway, this is the development-toolchain era so if Google Dart is 
> fine abandoning an alternative engine for its own browser and simply 
> trust transpiling to JS, why wouldn't any other "different language" 
> lover do the same?
>
> It's also the era where everyone cannot wait for any sort of plugin to 
> die due any sort of related problem ( looking at you Silverlight DRM 
> streaming on Linux ) so regardless I agree there are cases where we'd 
> like to have pure/native "other language" running on the browser (e.g. 
> see also WebGL and GLES indirections) I don't think having the 
> equivalent of LLVM interfaces for any sort of PL would bring any 
> real-world benefit to the Web ... see, again and indeed, Emscripten to 
> asm.js results
>
> Regards
>
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:18 PM, eric <calidion at gmail.com 
> <mailto:calidion at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     You are always misleading.
>
>     what you've listed just show that the trend is real and urgent.
>
>     but you choose to ignore it and mislead it.
>
>     why asm.js ? because there is no support for c++/c from browsers.
>     what if the browsers support c++/c navtively?
>
>     by
>     <script language="c" src="http://code.site.com/abc.o"
>     <http://code.site.com/abc.o>>
>     </script>
>     which will run faster than asm.js.
>     do we need asm.js then?
>
>     if browser natively support languages like c, c++, python, ruby.
>     then veryone can be a full stack programmer,
>
>
>
>     在 15/5/27 00:35, Matthew Robb 写道:
>>
>>     On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:22 PM, eric <calidion at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:calidion at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         C++ can be compiled to C too.
>>         no one would say C is a neutral language interface.
>>
>>
>>     ​I'm sorry to tell you but the overwhelming trend within browsers
>>     is not in favor of what you are proposing. C++ compiles to
>>     Javascript and is VERY fast in that form.​
>>     See: http://emscripten.org and http://asmjs.org/
>>
>>     If you don't think it will "catch on" then you should try to get
>>     more informed on the subject.
>>
>>     https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/05/07/bringing-asm-js-to-chakra-microsoft-edge/
>>
>>     ​Finally: http://alwaysbetonjs.com​
>>
>>
>>     - Matthew Robb
>
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