es-discuss Digest, Vol 95, Issue 82

Isiah Meadows impinball at
Thu Jan 22 19:36:27 PST 2015

> From: Brendan Eich <brendan at>
> To: Axel Rauschmayer <axel at>
> Cc: Arthur Stolyar <nekr.fabula at>, es-discuss list <
es-discuss at>
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 17:32:48 -0800
> Subject: Re: JavaScript 2015?
> I wouldn't hold my breath. Sun was not ever in the mood, even when I
checked while at Mozilla just before the Oracle acquisition closed. Also,
"the community" cannot own a trademark.
> Trademarks must be defended, or you lose them. This arguably has happened
to JavaScript. Perhaps the best course is to find out (the hard way)
whether this is so.
> /be
> Axel Rauschmayer wrote:
>>> This reminds me: Axel (not Alex) cannot recommend "JavaScript 2015" to
anything near the Ecma standard, because trademark. :-/
>> Ah, good point. It’d be lovely if whoever owns the trademark now
(Oracle?) could donate it to the community. Or the community buys it via
crowd-funded money.
>> --
>> Dr. Axel Rauschmayer
>> axel at <mailto:axel at>

Would this constitute a good question to ask Oracle formally? Probably the
best and safest way to check.
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