JavaScript 2015?

Allen Wirfs-Brock allen at
Thu Jan 22 19:30:17 PST 2015

On Jan 22, 2015 7:17 PM, Brendan Eich <brendan at> wrote:
> Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote: 
> > 
> Serves me right for looking only at the HTML! 

And the html is still one rev behind so you are missing all of the constructor redo that is in rev31

> Not for Allen, who I am pretty sure agrees: 
> This seems "just fine", not a problem. Yet at least for a while, 
> possibly longer than some TC39ers think, people will still say "ES6". I 
> find Andrea's WTF to be overdone, overstated -- but we shall find out. 
> Even TC39 can make changes based on wider feedback, after it has made a 
> decision. 
> The idea of a community-approved name or naming scheme brings to mind 
> that Axel wished for a "community-managed" trademark. Be careful what 
> you wish for. The Ecma TC39 renaming process (like just about any other 
> TC39 decision process) was not community-driven, with a lengthy 
> propose/listen/dispose cycle and some kind of "open governance" (however 
> defined). 
> Rather, we're still doing consensus among a mix of pay-to-play and 
> not-for-profit standard body members, where members have to build trust 
> among developers and work in Harmony, at least in the modern post-ES4 
> era. Renaming angst, which could become an issue or just blow up for 
> some reason we can't foresee, is just one issue to address for the same 
> of developer trust and harmony. 
> /be 

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