JavaScript 2015?

Andrea Giammarchi andrea.giammarchi at
Thu Jan 22 16:42:51 PST 2015

Apologies, Dr. Axel indeed. So if I understood correctly, a title cannot
contain ES6 or ECMAScript name in it at all? Or not even the JavaScript
bit? More confusion :D

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Brendan Eich <brendan at> wrote:

> Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
>> I particularly don't like the idea that things could be dropped or rushed
>> last minute just because the new years eve is coming ... this feel like
>> those stories with tight deadlines where management could easily fail due
>> over-expectations on all possible 3rd parts alignment ( you know, like
>> those 12 different JS engines out there .... + spartans )
> No last minute slips -- that's a schedule-chicken outcome (where the cars
> do not collide but one veers and drives off a cliff!).
> The new stuff has to board its "release train" or its champions and fans
> will be sad, and perhaps take a credibility hit. This doesn't mean larger
> work must be broken down into too many pieces, but that is a risk.
> Larger work that can track across multiple years is always risky -- in my
> experience it very often aims for a target near Alpha Centauri at sublight
> speed, when the real action was over at Tau Ceti due to an FTL
> breakthrough, but no one knew at first that (a) FTL was possible; or (b)
> the Centauri systems were uninhabitable. If you get what I mean ;-).
> (Spartan uses Chakra, last I heard.)
> Mature projects can do rapid-er release more easily than young ones, for
> sure. I recall 4.2BSD Unix, then 4.3, and a bit of 4.4.
>  I do like the idea of having more frequent rolling releases, but yet I
>> don't know why year-naming would be the choice.
> Does the name matter? You seemed to be objecting on more substantive
> grounds. Don't back off to mere quibbling about labels!
>  Anyway, please consider keeping ES6 exactly ES6, we will have time to
>> align the ESX where X = previous ESX +2009 concept.
>> to Doctor Alex, at this point I think you should really stick with ES6 or
>> avoid the ES at all and use JS 2015
> This reminds me: Axel (not Alex) cannot recommend "JavaScript 2015" to
> anything near the Ecma standard, because trademark. :-/
> /be
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