thoughts on ES6+ direction + modules

[Andrea Giammarchi]

Rick, I have already updated the post and YES, TC39 **should** consider
what the rest of the world would like to do or the way has always done
something and expecting to do otherwise the one that's not respecting will
result to be TC39.

So, here, summarized my thoughts, re-explained in that post:
my point is that surveys should be public too because if 3 developers
cannot represent the entire community, neither can 300 behind the same
company, or just a couple. There are many more of us out there, *I'd love
to see the possibility to participate every time a decision about an API
should be made*!

If you think that survey can help you, I completely agree that these should
be considered ... developers are those that will use the language, don't
make JavaScript as hostile as the DOM could have been in the past, Thank
you and everyone else.

Regards


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Rick Waldron <waldron.rick at gmail.com>wrote:

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> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Andrea Giammarchi <
> andrea.giammarchi at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> more specific, I still have one precedent case:
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>> "I sent out a survey 2 weeks ago and received 381 responses, 256 for
>> return-this and 125 for return something else (undefined, the new length or
>> size, the value)."
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>> A survey not proposed here, a survey proposed as result after already
>> made decision.
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> There is an important part of that quote that you (intentionally?) omitted
> and I don't appreciate it.
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> > "I like surveying actual developer-users like this, despite the
> committee's aversion to "design-by-survey"."
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> TC39 and es-discuss shouldn't make decisions based on a survey. I used the
> survey as a tool to **help me** decide whether or not the API enhancement
> was worth pursuing. Feel free to review the results yourself...
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap5RnGLtwI1RdHFzM3AyUVFuQkxTSWZnQTRidGJ6QWc
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>>  If this is never the case I'd like to to think there won't be other
>> exceptions but ... you know, maybe there are other surveys we don't know.
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> Check your facts. The survey was not discussed in the meeting:
> https://github.com/rwldrn/tc39-notes/blob/master/es6/2012-11/nov-29.md#cascading-this-returns
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> Rick
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