Cross-frame symbols

Brendan Eich brendan at mozilla.org
Fri Oct 12 10:27:06 PDT 2012


Alex Russell wrote:
> It's unclear how we could possibly do this for anything but built-ins, 
> and even there it's iffy. What if someone extends you builtin's 
> prototype in one frame but not the other?
>
> Anyhow, this all bottoms out at object identity. Functions are 
> objects, and declaring identically named objects in different 
> scripting contexts doesn't make the same object. To get there, you 
> need some iron-clad notion of "sameness". Inventing it is fraught. My 
> recommendation is to use frames a chunky barriers through which you do 
> IPC, not fine-grained object boundaries over which you call local methods.

+1

If you *do* make a "small world network" of objects that span frame 
boundaries, then you're generally keeping it "all in the family" and can 
cope via copying, adding instanceOf or typeOf methods, etc.

/be

>
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Axel Rauschmayer <axel at rauschma.de 
> <mailto:axel at rauschma.de>> wrote:
>
>     I’m not sure that I don’t understand all the issues involved, but
>     making symbols global just for cross-frame communication seems
>     like an extreme measure. If that is possible, it would be great if
>     we could fix cross-frame communication completely – also for
>     instanceof, not just for symbols.
>
>     Does it make sense to view this as a serialization problem? One
>     faces the same problem as in sending an object over a wire: If you
>     create new Foo() at one end, you want that object to be instanceof
>     Foo at the other end.
>
>     Axel
>
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