||= is much needed?

T.J. Crowder tj at crowdersoftware.com
Wed Jun 13 00:45:48 PDT 2012

On 13 June 2012 06:52, Brendan Eich <brendan at mozilla.org> wrote:

> People don't default on the caller side (at the callsite) much, in my
> experience. Dave may be seeing other sources, but it's extremely rare in my
> experience to see

I'm with Dave on this, I do it fairly regularly, usually when a function
turns around and calls another one with the arg and has no other use for
the arg:

function doSomethingNifty(a, b) {
    return doSomethingVerbose({
        x: 1,
        y: a,
        z: b ?: 5
        // ...

?= looks great, and Wes' point about confusion re ||= (or even |||=) and
boolean logical operators definitely kills my preferred ||| for the
non-assignment form if there's going to be an assignment form -- and we all
want an assignment form.

Is the reason for using ?: rather than ?? because we may want it for my
desired second ternary? E.g., from my other message:

a = b ?? c : d;


a = b !== undefined ? c : d;

Or that we want it (now, or in reserve) for something else? Because if not,
I'd prefer to see ?? rather than ?:. It's easier to type and the
double ??calls back to the related
||. But again, only if we don't want ?? (now, or in reserve) for something

Very much looking forward to ?: (however we spell it) and ?=.

-- T.J.
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