Summary of i18n ad hoc group meeting - 21st March 2011

Mark S. Miller erights at google.com
Mon Mar 21 18:57:35 PDT 2011


On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Axel Hecht <axel at mozilla.com> wrote:

> We had discussed that. Would it make sense to specify that coll.compare
> would actually be a bound method? That's one of the things that had a little
> "oh, no good any way we do this", as Erik wouldn't know of any example we'd
> follow by defining a method on an object to be bound by default.
>

I'm in favor of bound by default. I don't know of any examples in ES5, but
it's easy to specify.



>
> Axel
>
>
> On 21.03.11 18:26, Mark S. Miller wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Nebojša Ćirić <cira at google.com
>> <mailto:cira at google.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    Sorry, I didn't get the difference first time around.
>>
>>    Also, current fix is to do:
>>
>>    array.sort(function(a,b) { return coll.compare(a,b); });
>>
>>
>> Why not
>>
>>     array.sort(coll.compare.bind(coll))
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    21. март 2011. 17.31, Erik Arvidsson <erik.arvidsson at gmail.com
>>    <mailto:erik.arvidsson at gmail.com>> је написао/ла:
>>
>>
>>        On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 17:28, Nebojša Ćirić <cira at google.com
>>        <mailto:cira at google.com>> wrote:
>>         > Started implementation of collator in Chrome and hit a problem:
>>         > var coll = locale.collator();
>>         > array.sort(coll.compare);
>>         > Compare method gets bound to the undefined or global object
>>        at the call
>>         > site. Erik mentioned that this problem will be solved in
>>        Harmony by passing
>>         > additional "this" parameter to for-each and likes. We would
>>        like to propose
>>         > extending this syntax to the sort method too.
>>
>>        Not exactly. I said that the Array methods on ES5 already pass in
>> an
>>        optional this parameter and maybe we *could* do the same for
>>        Array.prototype.sort in Harmony.
>>
>>         > We discussed each part of the API in order to get detailed
>>        parameters of
>>         > each constructor and method.
>>         > General:
>>         >
>>         > Add options property to each class that would give you actual
>>        value for the
>>         > user parameters. For example, if user asked for islamic
>>        calendar, and we
>>         > only have islamic-civil, we set calendar property to
>>        islamic-civil. Allows
>>         > developer to iterate until satisfied with the result.
>>         > Use Unicode identifier vs. BCP47 in the API
>>         >
>>         > Collator:
>>         >
>>         > numeric - specifies numeric sort (9 comes before 12)
>>         > ignoreVariants - ignore all of case, width and kana
>>         > ignoreWidth, ignoreCase and ignoreKana - subvariants we may
>>        implement to
>>         > fine tune the behavior
>>         > ignoreAccents - ignore accents
>>         > ignoreSymbols - ignore punctuation and symbols
>>         > variant - phonebook, ... - string
>>         >
>>         > NumberFormat:
>>         >
>>         > Allow patterns to specify grouping, currency symbol position
>>        and sign
>>         > location
>>         > Start with ICU patterns and see if they work for everybody
>>         > Don't support overrides for grouping separator and decimal
>>        point for now
>>         > Specify both currencySymbol and currencyCode as override
>>         >
>>         > DateTimeFormatSymbols:
>>         >
>>         > Added Era and day period methods (AM/PM)
>>         > Moved all methods to DateTimeFormat class
>>         > Remove DTFSymbols class
>>         >
>>         > DateTimeFormat:
>>         >
>>         > Specify calendar names better (move work to Unicode/LDML and
>>        point to their
>>         > document).
>>         > Allow short/long dateType to get value from the system or cloud.
>>         > .options[skeleton] should contain best match for the given
>>        skeleton
>>         >
>>         > --
>>         > Nebojša Ćirić
>>         >
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>>
>>        --
>>        erik
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    --
>>    Nebojša Ćirić
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