david-sarah at jacaranda.org
Tue May 19 14:00:23 PDT 2009
Brendan Eich wrote:
> On May 17, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Neil Mix wrote:
>> - we could always allow parenthesis to be dropped when the yield is
>> the entire expression of an expression statement or the right-hand
>> side of an assignment.
> Right-hand side of assignment is ok without parens in Python because
> assignment is a statement.
> In JS if you allow assignment expressions ending in unparenthesized
> yields, then you can have unparenthesized yields in argument and
> initialiser lists, comma expressions, and in the middle and final
> operand positions in ternary (?:) expressions.
>> - in my experience with JS 1.7 I almost always had to parenthesize the
>> yield expression when it was in some other kind of expression. An in
>> the cases where parenthesis weren't required, I parenthesized anyway
>> to avoid ambiguity and maintain coding style consistency. (And
>> because I got tired of predicting incorrectly whether or not parens
>> would be required in a particular context.)
> The only contexts we allow you not to parenthesize in JS1.7 are
> assignment expressions and final argument in list. But see above -- the
> assignment expression loophole is big enough to allow
> foo(a = yield b, c);
> One argument, or two?
*If* it is allowed, then it should be two. It would be very surprising if
foo(a = b, c);
had two arguments (as it does), but the above expression with yield
But I agree that it may be better not to allow it.
>> So I would argue that there are two syntactical forms of yield, yield
>> E and (yield E), and that the rules regarding the requirement for
>> parenthesis are hard to predict (from personal experience).
>> Therefore, I argue that it would make sense to simplify a bit:
>> - the yield E form may be used when it is the entire expression of an
>> expression statement
>> - all other times it must be parenthesized
> Agreed; this closes the assignment expression loophole.
This would disallow
which seems unnecessary.
David-Sarah Hopwood ⚥
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