complexity tax - Addendum

ToolmakerSteve98 toolmakersteve98 at
Wed Mar 26 13:10:18 PDT 2008

I wrote:
> From my perspective, this is about:
> . Flash; Silverlight; Java (client side).
> Three major approaches requiring large plug-ins to provide a rich 
> environment. Notably all three approaches have languages substantially 
> beyond Javascript. As a toolmaker, I would love to see convergence between 
> Javascript and Flash and a Silverlight language that was powerful enough 
> to also use server side a la Java.
> Does such a language need to be as extensive as ES4? Probably not.
> Is this more urgent than the topics Douglas mentions? That seems worthy of 
> more discussion.

I want to add that one factor is what different people/companies are 
motivated to do. Since there is currently momentum to pin down an advanced 
language, I figure it is worth not interfering with that momentum. Let the 
current process go to completion, so that we have something specific to poke 

Given the [literally] global ramifications of adopting ES4, it might then 
make sense to pause, rather than seeking a vote on adoption. Spend time with 
ES4 implementations; grapple with security and other pressing concerns. Make 
at least one straw proposal for deferring some features.


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