AOP Compatibility

Brendan Eich brendan at
Wed Feb 20 15:41:49 PST 2008

On Feb 20, 2008, at 3:35 PM, P T Withington wrote:

> On 2008-02-20, at 17:20 EST, Brendan Eich wrote:
>> On Feb 20, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Kris Zyp wrote:
>>> Is there any way this compatibility can be mitigated? I am assuming
>>> there is
>>> no conceivable way to actually replace methods ad-hoc with arbitrary
>>> functions and retain sane typing and class expectations.
>> I'm not sure why you assume this. Latest RI downloaded from http://
>> :
> I thought the question was about annotating class fixtures?

How could it be, since those do not exist in ES1-3?

Fixtures are in the intrinsic namespace, so yes, 'use namespace  
intrinsic' will break AOP. The two do not mix, they're fundamentally  
opposed to each other.

> But your reply made me think:  So, built-ins cannot be classes,
> because they require backward compatibility?  Or maybe I missed that
> there are sealed/class versions of built-ins (in some other
> namespace?) with just a thin veneer of prototype around them for back
> compatibility?

You can read the code ;-). Built-in constructors such as Date are  
dynamic classes. Here's part of builtins/

     import ECMAScript4_Internal.*;
     import JSON.*;

     use default namespace public;
     use namespace helper;
     use namespace informative;
     use namespace intrinsic;
     use namespace __ES4__;
     use strict;

     const NOARG = {};

     dynamic class Date

         static const length = 7;

         /* E262-3 15.9.2: The Date Constructor Called as a Function */
         meta static function invoke(...args)   // args are ignored.
             (new Date()).public::toString();

         /* E262-3 15.9.3: The Date Constructor. */
         function Date(year=NOARG, month=NOARG, date=NOARG,  
hours=NOARG, minutes=NOARG, seconds=NOARG
, ms=NOARG) {

             switch (NOARG) {

Yes, typeof Date == "function" for backward compatibility. typeof is  
broken and we can't fix it, but the |is| operator and the meta  
objects proposal provides better alternative tools.


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