is ES4 getting too bloated?

Garrett Smith dhtmlkitchen at
Sun Oct 21 18:42:34 PDT 2007

On 10/21/07, Yuh-Ruey Chen <maian330 at> wrote:
> Hey all,
> I've been watching ES4 development and occasionally contributing input,
> and I have noticed a somewhat disturbing trend. ES4 is getting ever more
> and more complex.
> I understand ES4 is a multi-paradigm language and so must be packed with
> features, but I don't think we want a repeat of the C++ template problem
> (where it took nearly a decade just to get most compilers near
> compliance with the C++ spec). My point is that although a significant
> update to ES is needed, if it takes too long to implement a conforming
> compiler/interpreter for it, the adoption of new features is going to be
> slow. Heck, I wonder how willing MS would be to provide a fully (or near
> enough to it) conforming interpreter for ES4 if the spec is so large.
Tamarin will be included as a plugin for IE.

> Small proposals like bug fixes and reformed with and company, or
> proposals that generalize syntax to make the language more elegant are
> perfectly fine by me. But we already have such huge features like
> classes, generators, namespaces, type system, and now generic functions.
> Perhaps we should start deferring more features to ES5?
Which features do you feel are unjustified? Can you bring a specific issue?

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