is the ES4 proposal as good as approved?

Brendan Eich brendan at
Wed Dec 19 21:38:33 PST 2007

On Dec 19, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Peter Michaux wrote:

> With so many ECMAScript engines rushing ahead to implement the ES4
> proposal, it seems as though the proposal is as good as approved.

No, and I wonder if you missed my reply to your comment in John  
Resig's blog:

John's Google Spreadsheet and generated chart is charting progress.  
There will be changes to both implementations and draft specs. Don't  

As I wrote in that comment, it would be a big mistake to specify  
without implementations that users test and truly use for non-trivial/ 
synthetic inputs. It would also be a mistake to marry an early draft  
just because it was implemented and used.

> Perhaps there will be minor tweaks but if so many implementations
> contain classes, for example, such a feature will almost certainly be
> in ES4 final.

Let's cut to the chase: what are you worried about? Classes being in  

> Has the voting majority agreed in principle to vote in favor of the  
> proposal?

Ecma and ISO technical groups work by consensus, not voting. As  
everyone knows, consensus broke down within TG1, in a public way this  
past fall -- but we are trying to repair it now.

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