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Ummm... yeah, well, Brave is open source too... but it does use the
Chromium engine.<br>
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That said - chromium is in no way 'Google', other than, yes, some
google engineers contribute to the codebase.<br>
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Mozilla has become so politicized (and badly via Identity politics
BS), that apparently quality is taking a back seat to politics.<br>
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When I heard Mitchell Baker regurgitating the ridiculous and
blatantly false propaganda talking points about Trump being racist,
fomenting violence and/or hate or reinforcing white supremacy, that
did it for me.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/30/2021 4:41 PM, Paul Kosinski via
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">One of the crucial reasons I still use Firefox is because it is Open Source, so I doubt I would switch to Brave (or Opera, or anything...). Thus I hope that FF stabilizes before it becomes unusable.
And there are two ways it can become unusable: one is by crippling or removing long-standing capabilities even more (like XUL's removal destroying years of addons). The other is by making gratuitous UI changes so that every major ESR version requires significant relearning (and reconfiguration).
P.S. Even the fact that FF is Open Source doesn't guarantee it's desirability: Chromium is Open Source, but it's too much tied into Google infrastructure to be totally trustworthy.
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 10:50:20 -0400
Tanstaafl <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tanstaafl@libertytrek.org"><tanstaafl@libertytrek.org></a> wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On 2/28/2021 1:29 PM, Thane K. Sherrington wrote
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Mike, my complaint (and the complaint I get from my clients) is the
lack of Simplify Printing. I get that it's "coming soon" but that's
not the way to roll out a brand new printing system. Finish it, then
roll it out. The regular complaints I get about Firefox changes is
"too many changes to UI" and "they removed feature X". It's great to
get feature X back later, but by the time that happens, you will have
lost a percentage of your users, and they may not come back.
For Firefox to succeed it needs three things - more and more speed
(nobody likes waiting) and compatibility with websites (I'm hearing
more and more about "this site doesn't work in Firefox" from clients),
and more security/privacy (the raison d'être of Firefox.
It sort of seems like Firefox is making UI changes for the sake of
making changes. Changing the UI creates friction which creates
frustration among end-users. UI changes should be very few and far
between. The new printing system looks prettier than the old one,
but it's less functional, and it requires relearning.
Sorry to gripe, but I'm a massive Firefox fan and I push it to all my
clients. Recently, I'm getting more and more push back for the above
reasons.
At the very least, when you make a UI change like this that is missing
features in it's initial release, put a very obvious button that says
"Want the old version back? Click Here."
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I have to say, a huge, HUGE +100 to all of the above.
I've been using Firefox since before version 1.0. Ever since the loss of
XUL Addons, I've been casually researching alternatives, but...
For all of the above reasons, I recently switched my default browser to
Brave, and am preparing to start switching all of my clients, friends
and family to it as well.
The actual drivers that triggered my decision to act was, first, the
compatibility problems. More and more websites/pages just simply
wouldn't load. Restarting Firefox would fix it every time - for a while,
then it started again. The second is the garbage Identity Politics
Mozilla is pushing now.
For me, the decision to switch was the end of an era.
Most importantly, like Thane said, I won't be coming back... unless
Mozilla does something spectacular to make me give it another look -
like, opening up the UI to Addons at the same or similar level that XUL
allowed.
For now, though, I'm done.
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